Rally in Washington 11/14/23

[dealfinder11]

You don't work in marketing is my guess

It's a march to make a statement of support. To me it's a moot discussion and the higher numbers serve obvious benefit. Talk to anyone in marketing what they think, is 150k better than 250k.

I have spoken to people who understand Washington. They don't see the difference. And you are correct, i do not understand marketing. But I dont see the equivalence to general marketing. This is about gaining support, not selling more products...

[dealfinder11]

I don't see any contradiction to what I said. "We feel it is important that there be a large turnout at this event". I don't see any statement of "we feel every individual who is able to attend should make every effort to attend". We certainly have not seen any message from the Moetzes on the latter.

[Dan]

I don't see any contradiction to what I said. "We feel it is important that there be a large turnout at this event". I don't see any statement of "we feel every individual who is able to attend should make every effort to attend". We certainly have not seen any message from the Moetzes on the latter.

You asked why 200K and not 100K?
What are you basing a 100K turnout being big?

At any rate, ברב עם הדרת מלך.

[Yehuda57]

Numbers aside, every Lubavitcher (I would think) who is going is not just for the stated purposes of the march, but to put tefillin on and do mitzvos with people. Lubavitch doesn't need to have a monopoly on this (than G-d we don't anymore!). If you don't want to put tefillin on with people, perhaps sharing another Mitzvah is up your alley. Speaking to Shluchim the world over, you hear that people are desperate for ways to connect. Perhaps you'll meet someone who wants to set up a weekly parsha phone call, learn basic halacha, etc. The opportunities will be there, we just have to be open to them.

[aishel]

Did any organizations push to get goyim to show up? Run local ads in DC and Baltimore? Get churches on board? Seems many would want to come from those sects as well.

Yes. I know of at least a few evangelical Christians who are rallying their church members to go. One of which who closed his office to allow/encourage everyone from his work to go as well.

[yuneeq]

Without getting into what anyone’s Rav thinks or what the halachic implications are, I’m curious if people believe - Al Pi Teva - that this rally will help save Jews from getting attacked and killed. I think it will.

[ushdadude]

Without getting into what anyone’s Rav thinks or what the halachic implications are, I’m curious if people believe - Al Pi Teva - that this rally will help save Jews from getting attacked and killed. I think it will.

I'm only going to the rally because I can save even a single Jewish life by being there, not because I subscribe to any specific ideology that it represents.

[EliJelly]

Did any organizations push to get goyim to show up? Run local ads in DC and Baltimore? Get churches on board? Seems many would want to come from those sects as well.

I'd think the main focus should be there. So many Evangelicals and others who support Israel who can show up in numbers far surpassing the numbers they'd draw just from Jewish supporters. If that's not focused on enough that's a major oversight. Besides for the fact that non Jewish support speaks volumes louder than just Jewish support which is being expected and perceived as blind support for Israel.

[jj1000]

I'd think the main focus should be there. So many Evangelicals and others who support Israel who can show up in numbers far surpassing the numbers they'd draw just from Jewish supporters. If that's not focused on enough that's a major oversight. Besides for the fact that non Jewish support speaks volumes louder than just Jewish support which is being expected and perceived as blind support for Israel.

I'd think so as well. But based on Google I don't see much. And don't see much in MSM either.

[ExGingi]

1020pm. Thank me later.

Didn't book then. And it's no longer available, but got a 6:30pm with a connection in RDU in J for 15k AA.

[EliJelly]

Without getting into what anyone’s Rav thinks or what the halachic implications are, I’m curious if people believe - Al Pi Teva - that this rally will help save Jews from getting attacked and killed. I think it will.

It will help with showing support and gratitude for the administration to continue with their aid for Israel and not to waver to ever increasing pressure.

However, in saving Jews from getting attacked and killed, a "March against Antisemitism" instead of a March for Israel, would have had a greater and a more direct impact. Look at what they had today in Paris, a large march against antisemitism of over 100k, including former presidents Nicolas Sarkozy and Francois Hollande and a host of other politicians coming out against an increase in antisemitic incidents. If France can pull that off then the US could do that for sure, including getting big names on it. Instead we have an explosion in antisemitism in collages and all over without anything substantial to condemn it.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/crowds-join-lawmakers-paris-march-against-antisemitism-2023-11-12/

[WAM]

I want to go because seeing such achdus would be amazing. Specifically to have this large of a spectrum of us together in one place.
Does anybody know of any buses in the NYC area that would arrive in time for Beri Weber's minyan?

[Dan]

This is what we're up against. This is why we need a massive turnout tomorrow:
https://www.axios.com/2023/11/13/biden-gaza-hamas-policy-state-department-memo

[Dan]

Anyone ask their LOR?

https://twitter.com/DBashIdeas/status/1724080391093424442

[flyingace]

State Department has always been anti-Israel and anti- Semitic. It is part of the corporate culture over there.

[AsherO]

Anyone ask their LOR?

https://twitter.com/DBashIdeas/status/1724080391093424442

Is there a chance for 600k? Sounds  way exaggerated. Isn’t it ספק ברכות להקל if it’s close/unsure?

[Dan]

Is there a chance for 600k? Isn’t it ספק ברכות להקל if it’s close/unsure?

Certainly a problem, but what if authorities say there's well over that?
Probably a pipe dream, but who knows.

[Yehuda57]

Anyone ask their LOR?

https://twitter.com/DBashIdeas/status/1724080391093424442

Even if there are 600k in attendance, it is going to be tough to know how many are Jewish. Perhaps we can ask all Jews to identify themselves with some sort of insignia, and then have them counted by security as they enter, maybe send Jews to the left and non Jews to the right? Just spitballing here.

[AsherO]

Even if there are 600k in attendance, it is going to be tough to know how many are Jewish. Perhaps we can ask all Jews to identify themselves with some sort of insignia, and then have them counted by security as they enter, maybe send Jews to the left and non Jews to the right? Just spitballing here.

Do you play for Macabre Tel Aviv?

[Dan]

Even if there are 600k in attendance, it is going to be tough to know how many are Jewish. Perhaps we can ask all Jews to identify themselves with some sort of insignia, and then have them counted by security as they enter, maybe send Jews to the left and non Jews to the right? Just spitballing here.

Lol.
OK, let's say somehow there's 1MM people there and the majority are clearly Jewish.