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Re: Tefilas Haderech Map
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2023, 10:33:02 AM »

I'm assuming that can be employed for all safek situations
Or when you know you can't say it yet want to say it because its a bit of a wild West (Bank) there.
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Re: Tefilas Haderech Map
« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2023, 10:38:24 AM »
I don't want to give a rule for all without a more thorough review, but if there is a specific one you are asking about I can review. The bridges between Brooklyn and Manhattan are all okay.
I believe many would walk those on shabbos, I would think that might be a ק"ו to not say  tfilas haderech there..

How about gwb and/or Whitestone, are those tefila eligible?

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Re: Tefilas Haderech Map
« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2023, 11:04:20 AM »
I believe many would walk those on shabbos, I would think that might be a ק"ו to not say  tfilas haderech there..

How about gwb and/or Whitestone, are those tefila eligible?
GWB can be walked on shabbos. I need to check Whitestone.
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Re: Tefilas Haderech Map
« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2023, 12:15:51 PM »
Rabbi Berkovits says Tefillas Haderech between Y-m and Bnei Brak/Bet Shemesh/Tel Aviv/North etc at the turn off to Bet Shemesh. He says it is the only area along the route you can say it at. If they take the 443, he says it in Shma Koleinu the Shemoneh Esrei before (assuming he knows in advance), otherwise without shem and malchus.

Forgit who I heard it from - on the 443 you can say it as soon as you get to the neighborhoods of the chayos ra'os baderech...

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Re: Tefilas Haderech Map
« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2023, 06:09:39 PM »
GWB can be walked on shabbos. I need to check Whitestone.

Whitestone and Throgs Neck are also okay to walk.

IMPORTANT NOTE: This is all based on the psak of the RM"A and not the B"Y who argues on some points.
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Re: Tefilas Haderech Map
« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2023, 03:57:23 AM »
Forgit who I heard it from - on the 443 you can say it as soon as you get to the neighborhoods of the chayos ra'os baderech...
Perhaps there are cholkim but RYBs apparently does not agree.
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Re: Tefilas Haderech Map
« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2023, 01:06:31 PM »
Perhaps there are cholkim but RYBs apparently does not agree.
I think it was an attempt at a joke

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Re: Tefilas Haderech Map
« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2023, 01:51:31 PM »
It is more complicated than that according to R Shlomo Miller and others. You need to know where the city ends to know where to start counting and you would measure that similar to tchumin.

Do you do ריבוע for תפלת הדרך also? I was always under the impression that it is after the distance from the last residential area using the road you are on.
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Re: Tefilas Haderech Map
« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2023, 02:07:15 PM »
Do you do ריבוע for תפלת הדרך also? I was always under the impression that it is after the distance from the last residential area using the road you are on.

That is what we were told.
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Re: Tefilas Haderech Map
« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2023, 02:35:14 PM »
Do you do ריבוע for תפלת הדרך also? I was always under the impression that it is after the distance from the last residential area using the road you are on.
so you'd be able to say tefilas haderech on shabbos