Do foreign countries know if a passport was canceled?

[ExGingi]

I canceled my Israeli citizenship, but never surrendered my passport. As Murphy's law works, only now could I have a potential benefit from an Israeli passport, since I need to travel to Russia, and Israelis are one of the very few nationalities that can enter Russia without a visa.

Would Russian immigration authorities have any way to know that a passport has been invalidated if there is no physical indication of such?

[Something Fishy]

I can't see how they won't. Once they scan it they'll probably get a giant alert.

And what's your plan? You arrive to Russia on a bad passport. What now? Put on the next flight back, or.............

I think your only angle is to see if the passport is actually cancelled or not. Israeli bureaucratic incompetence may be your friend here.

[ExGingi]

I think your only angle is to see if the passport is actually cancelled or not. Israeli bureaucratic incompetence may be your friend here.

How?

[Something Fishy]

How?

How it wouldn't actually be cancelled? No idea.

How to check? Fly somewhere kosher with both passports and try using the Israeli one first.

[Something Fishy]

There might be an easier way but this is the first I thought of.

[ExGingi]

I can't see how they won't. Once they scan it they'll probably get a giant alert.

Do countries communicate these things with each other? Is there a global database?

[ExGingi]

There might be an easier way but this is the first I thought of.

I thought of that idea. Not sure if that would be cheaper than a Russian visa.

[Something Fishy]

Do countries communicate these things with each other? Is there a global database?

Definitely, but no idea if Russia is part of that.

[Something Fishy]

I thought of that idea. Not sure if that would be cheaper than a Russian visa.

The entire holdup is a visa?? As much as a pain in the neck that can be, I don't think the alternative is worth the risk.

If you're able to get a legit visa just go for that IMO.

[ExGingi]

The entire holdup is a visa?? As much as a pain in the neck that can be, I don't think the alternative is worth the risk.

If you're able to get a legit visa just go for that IMO.

At around $450 each, that's $900 potential saving. But I wouldn't take the risk.

If only South Africa would be more competent in locating an old birth certificate, I would be able to get EU passports for my family, and save money due to lower fees for EU citizens.

[Something Fishy]

$450 for a visa?? Highway robbery.

[yelped]

At around $450 each, that's $900 potential saving. But I wouldn't take the risk.

If only South Africa would be more competent in locating an old birth certificate, I would be able to get EU passports for my family, and save money due to lower fees for EU citizens.

Just pointing out that EU passports are not exactly free.

[Alexsei]

I can't see how they won't. Once they scan it they'll probably get a giant alert.

And what's your plan? You arrive to Russia on a bad passport. What now? Put on the next flight back, or.............

I think your only angle is to see if the passport is actually cancelled or not. Israeli bureaucratic incompetence may be your friend here.

I'd think invalidating a passport is top of the list, and that Israel must give Russia easy validation access to continue the visa waiver program

[sillypainter]

At around $450 each, that's $900 potential saving. But I wouldn't take the risk.

If only South Africa would be more competent in locating an old birth certificate, I would be able to get EU passports for my family, and save money due to lower fees for EU citizens.

Not sure where you got the pricing. Here they are.

https://washington.mid.ru/en/consular-services/citizens-usa/visa-to-russia/visa_fees/

[chff]

I know someone that traveled on a passport that was reported lost, flew from the US and did a cross Europe trip, on the 7th swipe he got flagged.....

[chff]

Just saying that Israel itself probably has no recollection that you gave up your citizenship, had that as well

[ckmk47]

At around $450 each, that's $900 potential saving.

Not sure where you got the pricing. Here they are.

https://washington.mid.ru/en/consular-services/citizens-usa/visa-to-russia/visa_fees/

5 years ago I paid in the $400 price range.  It's good for 5 years.
But maybe part of the fee was for an expediter. I gave the passport in locally and they took care of it.  I didn't go to the Russian Embassy.

[ExGingi]

Not sure where you got the pricing. Here they are.

https://washington.mid.ru/en/consular-services/citizens-usa/visa-to-russia/visa_fees/

I was also fooled by that price list.

Unless it's an emergency you can't apply at the consulate in person. You must use a service, there are extra fees, and the bottom line ends up roughly $450.

[ExGingi]

5 years ago I paid in the $400 price range.  It's good for 5 years.
But maybe part of the fee was for an expediter. I gave the passport in locally and they took care of it.  I didn't go to the Russian Embassy.

3 years.

[sruly]

I was also fooled by that price list.

Unless it's an emergency you can't apply at the consulate in person. You must use a service, there are extra fees, and the bottom line ends up roughly $450.

I paid $300 a couple of years ago.
Someone local in CH.