The Eisemann Persecution

[Moshe123]

New trial

[4yourinfo]

New trial

more like denied dismissal?

[dasmo801]

more like denied dismissal?

Correct, as i understand it.
I'm sure someone will correct me if i'm wrong but my understanding is that that previously, due to the Brady violation, the judge ordered a new trial. Today's hearing was an attempt by the defense to argue that the charges should be dismissed (i.e., no new trial). The judge did not agree and ruled that the new trial should go forward.

(this, notwithstanding the TLS headline "judge grants Rabbi Eismann new trial" which is technically correct but leaves the reader with the impression that RE was granted something that he was asking for...)

[S209]

Correct, as i understand it.
I'm sure someone will correct me if i'm wrong but my understanding is that that previously, due to the Brady violation, the judge ordered a new trial. Today's hearing was an attempt by the defense to argue that the charges should be dismissed (i.e., no new trial). The judge did not agree and ruled that the new trial should go forward.

(this, notwithstanding the TLS headline "judge grants Rabbi Eismann new trial" which is technically correct but leaves the reader with the impression that RE was granted something that he was asking for...)

You are correct.

[Ffrank]

Is it forsure at this stage, that the prosecution is definitely planning on actually going ahead with starting a new trial?

[YitzyS]

Is it forsure at this stage, that the prosecution is definitely planning on actually going ahead with starting a new trial?

They seem adamant to do so.

What their strategy is I can only guess, based on their recent activity. I would think that they are going to try to rewrite the script a little. Change what they are alleging a little so that they should be able to present a case even with the bookkeeper's testimony. Basically to say that Rabbi Eisemann can be guilty even if he didn't do anything himself. But they have contradicted themselves in the past (and said that he would not be guilty in this type of scenario), so we have to see if the judge will strike down any new prosecutorial theory.

That is just my guess.

[YitzyS]

Some more info on last week's hearing.

https://thelakewoodscoop.com/news/new-directors-at-the-opia-as-eisemann-case-heads-to-new-trial/

[yelped]

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Tried Google DNS, Cloudflare, and Quad 9. All not working.

[YitzyS]

Pretrial hearing set for 9:00 tomorrow morning. Judge can basically set the rules for the trial, decide what can be admitted as evidence, etc. No major fanfare, but can be really pivotal, so it's a good time to daven.

[Pony]

Pretrial hearing set for 9:00 tomorrow morning. Judge can basically set the rules for the trial, decide what can be admitted as evidence, etc. No major fanfare, but can be really pivotal, so it's a good time to daven.

Any update?

[YitzyS]

Any update?

There was a lot of back and forth about different questions. Another prosecutor is now on the case (number 5? 6? lost count already). One of the points they argued about was if the prosecutors should have to hand over the unredacted Exhibit F, with their handwritten notes, before the trial - and Paone set a hearing on July 2 just to debate that point.

That's some of it.

[Yehuda57]

So glad NJ taxpayers get to pay for this

[Euclid]

So glad NJ taxpayers get to pay for this

Should at least be televised so we can get entertainment value out of it

[YitzyS]

Last Shavuos was the major Appellate victory for Rabbi Eisemann. Hopefully this Shavuos will be an Eis Ratzon in the case again.

[YitzyS]

They are launching a massive fundraiser to raise funds for the new trial. I heard (didn't confirm) that they already owe $200,000 just for prep until now, and the trial itself will cost a lot more.

It's really scary to face a jury in these times. They really need zechusim.

Donate here: pidyonshvuyim.com

https://thelakewoodscoop.com/news/eisemann-askanim-launch-massive-fundraising-campaign-ahead-of-new-trial-set-to-begin-july-9/
https://lakewoodalerts.com/rabbi-eisemanns-trial-set-to-begin-july-9th-as-prosecutors-seek-to-put-away-an-innocent-man/

[YitzyS]

The trial is scheduled to start next week, but a major hearing is scheduled for 9:00 tomorrow morning. The judge will basically set the rules for the trial, and determine what the prosecution will be allowed to say to the jury and which exhibits they can use as evidence. The prosecution also wants to try to convict with new theories that contradict what they said previously. The decision tomorrow will literally shape the entire trial. If the judge doesn't stop them, they will ch"v have a much bigger chance of getting a conviction.

[YitzyS]

The trial is scheduled to start next week, but a major hearing is scheduled for 9:00 tomorrow morning. The judge will basically set the rules for the trial, and determine what the prosecution will be allowed to say to the jury and which exhibits they can use as evidence. The prosecution also wants to try to convict with new theories that contradict what they said previously. The decision tomorrow will literally shape the entire trial. If the judge doesn't stop them, they will ch"v have a much bigger chance of getting a conviction.

https://thelakewoodscoop.com/news/critical-hearing-in-eisemann-case-can-shape-next-weeks-trial/

[Yehuda57]

Wouldn't that be a gift to the defense? When they try bring evidence to support a new theory, the defense can impeach them with their prior testimony, no? #notalawyer

[YitzyS]

Wouldn't that be a gift to the defense? When they try bring evidence to support a new theory, the defense can impeach them with their prior testimony, no? #notalawyer

The defense won't be able to give the jury the transcripts of what the prosecutors said at hearings. They can only present their case based on live testimony from witnesses, and opening and closing remarks from the lawyers.

And also, to clarify, the new theory allows them to try to tell the jury that the money was private funds, where they previously told the jury in the last trial that it was public funds. If you try to impeach them to the jury, the prosecution can just say that they were mistaken previously. Only the judge can bar them from coming with a new story.

[Yehuda57]

The defense won't be able to give the jury the transcripts of what the prosecutors said at hearings. They can only present their case based on live testimony from witnesses, and opening and closing remarks from the lawyers.

And also, to clarify, the new theory allows them to try to tell the jury that the money was private funds, where they previously told the jury in the last trial that it was public funds. If you try to impeach them to the jury, the prosecution can just say that they were mistaken previously. Only the judge can bar them from coming with a new story.

How can they present it? Through witnesses. The same witnesses who testified in the first trial, no?