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Other D, as Biden won't get nomination or won't make it to election day for other reasons
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Undecided
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Author Topic: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread  (Read 53241 times)

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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #340 on: August 07, 2024, 08:56:43 AM »
The unfortunate truth is that if he acted more like Reagan, he would likely lose. Like it or not, his bellicose demeanor is what endears him to his staunchest supporters.

(And when I say "truth", I mean IMO. Feel free to argue. But you shouldn't, because you will be wrong.)
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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #341 on: August 07, 2024, 09:24:26 AM »
Where is the "I cant vote legally" option...?
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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #342 on: August 07, 2024, 10:19:51 AM »
Where is the "I cant vote legally" option...?
Since when does that make a difference?
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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #343 on: August 07, 2024, 10:24:11 AM »
Where is the "I cant vote legally" option...?

then you vote democrat

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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #344 on: August 07, 2024, 01:33:06 PM »
The unfortunate truth is that if he acted more like Reagan, he would likely lose. Like it or not, his bellicose demeanor is what endears him to his staunchest supporters.

(And when I say "truth", I mean IMO. Feel free to argue. But you shouldn't, because you will be wrong.)

The unfortunate truth is that if the Republicans had a solid candidate, this election wouldn't even be in play. Republicans would be up by 10 points now.

For every rural MAGA voter, Trump loses three votes elsewhere.

The party presiding over a bad economy and high inflation is already 5 points down before any candidates are chosen. Trump has a magical way of making what should be a runaway election into a tight race.


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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #345 on: August 07, 2024, 01:55:59 PM »
The unfortunate truth is that if the Republicans had a solid candidate, this election wouldn't even be in play. Republicans would be up by 10 points now.

For every rural MAGA voter, Trump loses three votes elsewhere.

The party presiding over a bad economy and high inflation is already 5 points down before any candidates are chosen. Trump has a magical way of making what should be a runaway election into a tight race.


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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #346 on: August 07, 2024, 02:07:09 PM »
The unfortunate truth is that if the Republicans had a solid candidate, this election wouldn't even be in play. Republicans would be up by 10 points now.

For every rural MAGA voter, Trump loses three votes elsewhere.

The party presiding over a bad economy and high inflation is already 5 points down before any candidates are chosen. Trump has a magical way of making what should be a runaway election into a tight race.
-1. I remember the McCain and Romney years. Both decent candidates but could not win an election. Even bush barely won, even though a democrat was in office for 8 years and it was in the middle of the dot com crash.

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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #347 on: August 07, 2024, 02:19:10 PM »
-1. I remember the McCain and Romney years. Both decent candidates but could not win an election. Even bush barely won, even though a democrat was in office for 8 years and it was in the middle of the dot com crash.

So basically you need a normal candidate but who can fight back and isn’t a pushover.....

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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #348 on: August 07, 2024, 04:52:18 PM »
-1. I remember the McCain and Romney years. Both decent candidates but could not win an election. Even bush barely won, even though a democrat was in office for 8 years and it was in the middle of the dot com crash.
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The Iraq war plus the economic meltdown of 2008 made it almost impossible for a Republican to win a general election. Trump would have lost to Obama worse than McCain or Romney.

However, America was ready for a Republican by 2016. A Republican should have easily won 2016, while Trump barely managed to scrape by and win the electoral college. Trump should have had 2020 in the bag, but his erratic behavior caused him to lose. (and yes, he only has himself to blame. Not Russiagate, the media or a stolen election)

With the Democrats going with a far-left ticket, Trump should be up right now by 5-10 points. But he's not. This says more about Trump than anything else.

Maybe he should go around putting down more Republicans and calling them names. I'm sure that'll get his numbers up.

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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #349 on: August 07, 2024, 05:21:29 PM »
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The Iraq war plus the economic meltdown of 2008 made it almost impossible for a Republican to win a general election. Trump would have lost to Obama worse than McCain or Romney.

However, America was ready for a Republican by 2016. A Republican should have easily won 2016, while Trump barely managed to scrape by and win the electoral college. Trump should have had 2020 in the bag, but his erratic behavior caused him to lose. (and yes, he only has himself to blame. Not Russiagate, the media or a stolen election)

With the Democrats going with a far-left ticket, Trump should be up right now by 5-10 points. But he's not. This says more about Trump than anything else.

Maybe he should go around putting down more Republicans and calling them names. I'm sure that'll get his numbers up.


Romney could have won in 2012 but he allowed them to trample all over him.
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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #350 on: August 08, 2024, 03:44:43 AM »
So basically you need a normal candidate but who can fight back and isn’t a pushover.....
Rubio or Halley?

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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #351 on: August 08, 2024, 04:54:54 AM »
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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #352 on: August 09, 2024, 05:02:31 AM »
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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #353 on: August 09, 2024, 09:11:37 AM »
WSJ Op-Ed

Makes a lot of sense, but looks like at least half of America are basement voters.
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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #354 on: August 09, 2024, 09:21:41 AM »
Makes a lot of sense, but looks like at least half of America are basement voters.
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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #355 on: August 09, 2024, 09:31:56 AM »
Strassel is right wing as they come who tries to make you believe she is fair and balanced, NOT!
Can everything she says be true? Possibly but not likely. You need to fact checker as if it is from the RNC.
I don't read enough to detect or recognize bias, but without going in to fact checking specific policy statements mentioned in the article, she does seem to not answer questions, and she didn't seem to offer any valuable policy statements during her honeymoon, hopefully it's coming.
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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #356 on: August 09, 2024, 09:36:11 AM »
I don't read enough to detect or recognize bias, but without going in to fact checking specific policy statements mentioned in the article, she does seem to not answer questions, and she didn't seem to offer any valuable policy statements during her honeymoon, hopefully it's coming.
I expect her to stay in the basement unless the current tide changes.
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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #357 on: August 09, 2024, 09:42:20 AM »
I expect her to stay in the basement unless the current tide changes.
She will be required to respond to policy questions on the debate stage. Is she articulate enough to keep her answers vague and noncommittal there as well? Or will that half of America just not tune in?
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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #358 on: August 09, 2024, 09:45:30 AM »
She will be required to respond to policy questions on the debate stage. Is she articulate enough to keep her answers vague and noncommittal there as well? Or will that half of America just not tune in?
I think she will do two things.
1 - Stick to the script. She is not like Biden and can remember the script.
2 - Attack Trump's lies. That will set Trump off.
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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #359 on: August 09, 2024, 09:48:14 AM »
I think she will do two things.
1 - Stick to the script. She is not like Biden and can remember the script.
2 - Attack Trump's lies. That will set Trump off.
IMO her keeping quiet until the debate is a risky game
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