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Who are you voting for?

Biden
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Trump
46 (67.6%)
Other (Write in)
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I don't vote in general and won't be voting this year
7 (10.3%)
I do vote in general, but won't be this year
0 (0%)
Other D, as Biden won't get nomination or won't make it to election day for other reasons
1 (1.5%)
Other R, as Trump will be in jail or won't make it to election day for other reasons
3 (4.4%)
Undecided
4 (5.9%)

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Author Topic: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread  (Read 61009 times)

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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #600 on: August 23, 2024, 06:20:05 PM »
There is Jewish and there is Jew-ish (Santos style).

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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #601 on: August 23, 2024, 06:23:12 PM »
He wanted to sell his endorsement.

Link?

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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #603 on: August 26, 2024, 04:20:33 AM »
I believe house pricing has been mentioned somewhere in the politics threads.
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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #604 on: August 26, 2024, 08:56:37 AM »
Link?
He said clearly in his speech that he is not going to allow the work of his campaigners to go to waste, but that he is “leveraging” their work to achieve some of the goals they were aiming for. So he’s not denying selling his endorsement, but I think it makes sense and is ethical.

We worked to be elected so that we can implement many policies. But we are losing, and will get zero of our ideas heard seriously. So instead I exchanged my endorsement for a cabinet position so that I can at least get some of our goals implemented.

That is basically what he said. If he said that, is that unethical?

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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #605 on: August 26, 2024, 09:21:53 AM »
He said clearly in his speech that he is not going to allow the work of his campaigners to go to waste, but that he is “leveraging” their work to achieve some of the goals they were aiming for. So he’s not denying selling his endorsement, but I think it makes sense and is ethical.

We worked to be elected so that we can implement many policies. But we are losing, and will get zero of our ideas heard seriously. So instead I exchanged my endorsement for a cabinet position so that I can at least get some of our goals implemented.

That is basically what he said. If he said that, is that unethical?

If he was asking for a guarantee of a cabinet position, that would be unethical and illegal.

If he was advocating for policy, that is 100% appropriate.

The middle grey area is getting an implied promise of a cabinet position. This is common practice (for example, Pete Butigeg) and I don't remember anyone complaining about it on DDF before (but ECs are gonna EC...).

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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #606 on: August 29, 2024, 04:28:58 PM »
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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #608 on: September 19, 2024, 10:59:30 AM »
Lol. Look at this CNN headline... If you look with a microscope you will actually see that she DOES do interviews. Okay. Fine. What kind of analysis is this????

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/19/media/kamala-harris-press-strategy-local-media

I guess just trying to change the narrative.. So CNN asking us to look REALLY close..
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #609 on: September 20, 2024, 12:25:13 PM »
@CountValentine, @biobook.
This guy is using other words to say what I've been saying. This is what this election is about. It's a threat to democracy vs an old man with quite a few flaws. I'll take the latter at any given day.

https://x.com/defiyantlyfree/status/1836950502896001279
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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #610 on: September 20, 2024, 12:27:23 PM »
@CountValentine, @biobook.
This guy is using other words to say what I've been saying. This is what this election is about. It's a threat to democracy vs an old man with quite a few flaws. I'll take the latter at any given day.
They are one in the same and you can't see it.

I guess you are one of those 1/6 was a nothing burger?

ETA: This is how this threat thinks. Censor anything/anyone he doesn't like.
The chair of the Federal Communications Commission flat-out rejected Donald Trump’s call for ABC to lose its broadcasting licenses over the way its moderators treated him during his debate against Kamala Harris on the network earlier this month.
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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #611 on: September 20, 2024, 01:37:34 PM »
@CountValentine, @biobook.
This guy is using other words to say what I've been saying.

I agree with that statement.

I happen to think you're both misguided, but don't have time today to expand on that.

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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #612 on: October 06, 2024, 10:02:57 PM »
I agree with that statement.

I happen to think you're both misguided, but don't have time today to expand on that.

Still waiting.

In the meantime:

https://x.com/dumisanitemsgen/status/1843103263811321881
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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #613 on: October 07, 2024, 11:12:50 PM »
I agree with that statement.

I happen to think you're both misguided, but don't have time today to expand on that.

https://x.com/autismcapital/status/1843420599307382973
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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #614 on: October 08, 2024, 12:06:30 AM »
@CountValentine, @biobook.
This guy is using other words to say what I've been saying. This is what this election is about. It's a threat to democracy vs an old man with quite a few flaws. I'll take the latter at any given day.

I don't know who this guy is, but his argument seems to be that choosing Harris to replace Biden is the death of democracy. 

He offers no evidence to support his understanding of what democracy is, and he makes no reference to the rules in our democracy for dealing with this particular situation.

Both parties have rules about how to handle the case where someone who won the primaries is unable to run for election (whether it's due to dropping out, being ousted, being assassinated, dying a natural death, having some disqualifying secret revealed, etc).

If it happens after the primaries but before the convention, then the delegates go to the convention and vote on whom to nominate (after a few days of speeches, discussions, arguments).

If it happens after the nominating convention but before the election, then members of the national committee (RNC or DNC) vote on whom to nominate.

There are more details, but those seem to be the basic procedures.

If you have a problem with the existing rules, then discuss those rules, because both parties have them. 

Trump decides tomorrow that he doesn't want to run after all.  What are the Republican party's rules for handling this situation? Do you agree or disagree with them?  Should they hold a primary in each state, with 10-15 candidates?  How will they raise funds for campaigning, with just 3 weeks before the election?

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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #615 on: October 08, 2024, 12:28:09 AM »
I don't know who this guy is, but his argument seems to be that choosing Harris to replace Biden is the death of democracy. 

He offers no evidence to support his understanding of what democracy is, and he makes no reference to the rules in our democracy for dealing with this particular situation.

If you have a problem with the existing rules, then discuss those rules, because both parties have them. 

Trump decides tomorrow that he doesn't want to run after all.  What are the Republican party's rules for handling this situation? Do you agree or disagree with them?  Should they hold a primary in each state, with 10-15 candidates?  How will they raise funds for campaigning, with just 3 weeks before the election?

I too have no idea who this guy is, but what I definitely know is that you're missing the point.

None of this is about rules of what happens IF an unexpected out of the ordinary event happens.

It is about the system being GAMED by using those rules to avoid giving the people who should have a say, the ability to do so. This is the kind of subversion that Yuri Bezmanov spoke of.

And THAT is precisely the greatest threat to our democracy, using its rules and processes as a tool for subversion.
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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #616 on: October 08, 2024, 07:25:42 PM »
Are we witnessing President Biden's revenge tour?
A Kamala loss would mark the ultimate "I told you so" moment.

http://www.dossier.today/p/are-we-witnessing-president-bidens
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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #617 on: October 08, 2024, 09:48:27 PM »
Are we witnessing President Biden's revenge tour?
A Kamala loss would mark the ultimate "I told you so" moment.

http://www.dossier.today/p/are-we-witnessing-president-bidens

Are we witnessing the implosion of the Democrat party (and more specifically the DNC)?
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #618 on: October 08, 2024, 10:10:11 PM »
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Re: 2024 Hamster Wheel Election Pick Your Aged Poison Master Thread
« Reply #619 on: October 08, 2024, 10:20:16 PM »
Are we witnessing the implosion of the Democrat party (and more specifically the DNC)?
I think pretty overated. You think everything will fall apart because of one disgruntle old man, even if he is the President??