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I would like a list of potential pitfalls. This is not the Shulchan Aruch here, but to raise awareness, so people will know to look into it, or ask their rabbi.
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #200 on: April 03, 2024, 12:24:40 PM »
Quote from: SuperFlyer on April 03, 2024, 12:22:30 PM
If one misses in a Plag Minyan, Mincha before the Plag, one needs to daven maariv later.
FTFY
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #201 on: April 03, 2024, 12:25:41 PM »
Quote from: avromie7 on April 03, 2024, 12:24:40 PM
FTFY
My understanding is that Shabbes is no longer a Plag one.
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #202 on: April 03, 2024, 12:46:42 PM »
Quote from: SuperFlyer on April 03, 2024, 12:22:30 PM
If one misses in a Plag Minyan, Mincha before the Plag, one needs to make Shabbos later.
No.
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #203 on: April 03, 2024, 02:09:58 PM »
Which Plag?
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #204 on: April 03, 2024, 02:53:39 PM »
Quote from: SuperFlyer on April 03, 2024, 12:25:41 PM
My understanding is that Shabbes is no longer a Plag one.
You can be mekabel shabbos early. The problem tarti d'sasri is for mincha and maariv.
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #205 on: April 03, 2024, 03:16:49 PM »
Quote from: avromie7 on April 03, 2024, 02:53:39 PM
You can be mekabel shabbos early. The problem tarti d'sasri is for mincha and maariv.
Okay, and you won't eat before Maariv.
So practically you come home to eat the time that the regular - non-plag people would.
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #206 on: April 03, 2024, 03:23:20 PM »
Quote from: SuperFlyer on April 03, 2024, 03:16:49 PM
Okay, and you won't eat before Maariv.
So practically you come home to eat the time that the regular - non-plag people would.
Some people do eat before maariv
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #207 on: April 03, 2024, 03:25:00 PM »
Quote from: imayid2 on April 03, 2024, 03:23:20 PM
Some people do eat before maariv
Not too straightforward though
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #208 on: April 03, 2024, 03:34:17 PM »
Quote from: SuperFlyer on April 03, 2024, 03:25:00 PM
Not too straightforward though
Why not?
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #209 on: April 03, 2024, 03:39:17 PM »
Quote from: avromie7 on April 03, 2024, 03:34:17 PM
Why not?
You would eat Shabbes night, make Kiddush and all and go Daven Maariv later on regular basis?
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #210 on: April 03, 2024, 03:43:44 PM »
Quote from: SuperFlyer on April 03, 2024, 03:39:17 PM
You would eat Shabbes night, make Kiddush and all and go Daven Maariv later on regular basis?
some people do do that
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #211 on: April 03, 2024, 03:54:35 PM »
Quote from: imayid2 on April 03, 2024, 03:43:44 PM
some people do do that
What's this some people?

Some people eat on Yom Kippur while being totally fit.

I've asked not to clutter.
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #212 on: April 03, 2024, 03:59:37 PM »
Quote from: avromie7 on April 03, 2024, 02:53:39 PM
You can be mekabel shabbos early. The problem tarti d'sasri is for mincha and maariv.
If you have a problem with it. Some Rishonin don't, some Achronim don't either, and that was the prevalent minhag in Europe (all over Europe) on Friday/Shabbos.
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #213 on: April 03, 2024, 04:01:18 PM »
Quote from: yelped on April 03, 2024, 03:59:37 PM
If you have a problem with it. Some Rishonin don't, some Achronim don't either, and that was the prevalent minhag in Europe (all over Europe) on Friday/Shabbos.
My problem is on a regular basis eating his Shabbes meal before Maariv.
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #214 on: April 03, 2024, 04:02:35 PM »
Quote from: SuperFlyer on April 03, 2024, 04:01:18 PM
My problem is on a regular basis eating his Shabbes meal before Maariv.
What is the problem?
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #215 on: April 03, 2024, 04:18:06 PM »
Quote from: SuperFlyer on April 03, 2024, 04:01:18 PM
My problem is on a regular basis eating his Shabbes meal before Maariv.
What's the problem and why is regular basis different?
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #216 on: April 03, 2024, 04:22:17 PM »
Quote from: avromie7 on April 03, 2024, 04:18:06 PM
What's the problem and why is regular basis different?

Prob the "I've never heard of it before, and it just seems wrong me..."

It maybe MORE lechatchila than the usual early shabbos way - but I'll leave that for the better learned members here to debate
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #217 on: April 03, 2024, 04:22:38 PM »
Okay guys, since you insist on cluttering, bring the sources that it's allowed leKatchila please.
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #218 on: April 03, 2024, 04:23:31 PM »
Quote from: SuperFlyer on April 03, 2024, 04:22:38 PM
Okay guys, since you insist on cluttering, bring the sources that it's allowed leKatchila please.
The onus is on you, to explain why it shouldn’t be. Otherwise it is, by default.

Anyway, see מג״א סימן רע״א סק״ה
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #219 on: April 03, 2024, 04:26:39 PM »
Quote from: imayid2 on April 03, 2024, 04:23:31 PM
The onus is on you, to explain why it shouldn’t be. Otherwise it is, by default.
Learning new things here:
So I'm the weird one that comes back from MIncha, Kabolas Shabbes, Maariv and make Kiddush and eat....
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