Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)

[Ver hut gazugt]

[SuperFlyer]

That's Kriyas Shema

[imayid2]

Start before

[Ver hut gazugt]

https://shulchanaruchharav.com/halacha/may-i-eat-the-friday-night-meal-before-davening-maariv/

[SuperFlyer]

https://shulchanaruchharav.com/halacha/may-i-eat-the-friday-night-meal-before-davening-maariv/

Thanks, proving my point .

[avromie7]

https://shulchanaruchharav.com/halacha/may-i-eat-the-friday-night-meal-before-davening-maariv/

Thanks, proving my point .

Which reason applies to starting a meal before the zman maariv?

[imayid2]

Thanks, proving my point .

What was your point and how was it proven?

[Ver hut gazugt]

Which reason applies to starting a meal before the zman maariv?

kiddush is in mariv.

[imayid2]

kiddush is in mariv.

So?

[aygart]

Learning new things here:
So I'm the weird one that comes back from MIncha, Kabolas Shabbes, Maariv and make Kiddush and eat....

Just because there are people who do something that you never heard of doesn't make the alternative weird.

[madhocker]

If one makes early shabbos, it is proper to make sure to eat a kzayis of bread after Tzeis.

[EliJelly]

Al pi halacha it's absolutely permitted, however, al pi Ari the sequence is davka Mariv before and kiddush afterwards.

[madhocker]

Al pi halacha it's absolutely permitted, however, al pi Ari the sequence is davka Mariv before and kiddush afterwards.

+1
you will seldom find a chossid doing this. This may explain why @SuperFlyer thinks it is unheard of....

[EliJelly]

+1
you will seldom find a chossid doing this. This may explain why @SuperFlyer thinks it is unheard of....

Correct

[imayid2]

Al pi halacha it's absolutely permitted

The Gra is machmir

[EliJelly]

The Gra is machmir

In Masseh Rav, so both chassidim and Litvaks should be machmir..

[imayid2]

, however, according to the כף החיים al pi Ari the sequence is davka Mariv before and kiddush afterwards.

FTFY

[madhocker]

In Masseh Rav, so both chassidim and Litvaks should be machmir..

Most Litvaks do not follow the shitas HaGr"a exclusively. In this case, he is arguing on a M"A, and the Mshn"b is soisem like the M"A and does not bring the Gr"a. But for a Chossid, hanhagas Ha'ari is sacrosanct...

[Moshe Green]

Okay guys, since you insist on cluttering, bring the sources that it's allowed leKatchila please.

If you don't want it cluttered the do your research before you post something, speak the whole halacha out, and add in as many other shittas as possible.

But to post a "halachik point" in a very simplified way and then hope no one calls you out on it on DDF is a Bracha Levatala... (this last point is not halachik, its demogogik)

[SuperFlyer]

If you don't want it cluttered the do your research before you post something, speak the whole halacha out, and add in as many other shittas as possible.

But to post a "halachik point" in a very simplified way and then hope no one calls you out on it on DDF is a Bracha Levatala... (this last point is not halachik, its demogogik)

Like always, almost every Halacha is a Machlokes.

The idea for this thread is to bring up awareness to potential pitfalls for Halachos for people that might not even be aware of them.

(In case that was not obvious: I'm not a Possek and have no authority in the field, and I doubt that you, spending time on DDF aren't one either. So please, understand what this thread is about.)