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I would like a list of potential pitfalls. This is not the Shulchan Aruch here, but to raise awareness, so people will know to look into it, or ask their rabbi.
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But for Kaddish yasom you will need 10 (so keep that in mind).

Source?

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Not So Well Known Halachos
« Reply #141 on: April 01, 2024, 12:32:53 AM »
Please see wiki.

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Re: Not So Well Known Halachos
« Reply #142 on: April 01, 2024, 12:33:10 AM »
  • After one finishes שמונה עשרה he should remain in his place until the ש״ץ reaches kedusha or at least until he begins חזרת הש״ץ.
    שו״ע סי׳ קכג:ב

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This thread seems to have gotten very cluttered. I hope no one minds I opened a new but slightly different one. This one can be for discussion also.

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Re: Not So Well Known Halachos
« Reply #144 on: April 01, 2024, 12:53:21 AM »
  • One who has to yawn during שמונה עשרה should cover his mouth.
    שו״ע סי׳ צז:א

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The worst are places that start SH"E with 6 but wait for 10 for chazaras hashatz.

Are there even places that do differently? That's the pashtis halacha.

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Re: Not So Well Known Halachos
« Reply #146 on: April 01, 2024, 01:12:19 AM »
  • After one finishes שמונה עשרה he should remain in his place until the ש״ץ reaches kedusha or at least until he begins חזרת הש״ץ.
    שו״ע סי׳ קכג:ב

 
  • Another important Halacha and common mistake related to this.
    ומטעם זה קצת מקפידין שלא יעבור אדם לפניהם בעוד שעומדין במקום שפסע שלא יפסיק זה בין ששה פסיעותיהם אבל מ"מ ע"י קפידתם טועים כשרואים מי שרוצה לעבור לפניהם הם ממהרים לחזור למקומם קודם שיתחיל הש"ץ התפילה דהוא מעיקר הדין

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This thread seems to have gotten very cluttered. I hope no one minds I opened a new but slightly different one. This one can be for discussion also.
Thank you!

Here's the link:
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=136020.msg2808529#msg2808529

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This thread seems to have gotten very cluttered. I hope no one minds I opened a new but slightly different one. This one can be for discussion also.
Will get cluttered too.

If you mean well, you open in THIS thread a Wiki with the 'Tamtsis'

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If one wants to get up before a fast starts, one has to make a Tray / Condition that he wants to get up and eat prior the fast.

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If one wants to get up before a fast starts, one has to make a Tray / Condition that he wants to get up and eat prior the fast.
Unless:
1) He fell asleep by mistake
2) He asked someone to make food for him
3) It's not Mo. Shabbos and he didn't eat Melaveh Malka yet
4) He wants to drink (not eat) [according to some]

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Unless:
1) He fell asleep by mistake
2) He asked someone to make food for him
3) It's not Mo. Shabbos and he didn't eat Melaveh Malka yet
4) He wants to drink (not eat) [according to some]
3) if it's not M"SH, why would he have or not have M"M?

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Where's the source for the pinky?
Saw a source in the dirshu mishna brura on the "other side of the page" IYKYK

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This thread seems to have gotten very cluttered. I hope no one minds I opened a new but slightly different one. This one can be for discussion also.

I merged the topics, opening the new one isn’t going to solve anything.
DDF FFB (Forum From Birth)

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I merged the topics, opening the new one isn’t going to solve anything.
Thank you

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If one wants to get up before a fast starts, one has to make a Tray / Condition that he wants to get up and eat prior the fast.
Didn't know this. What if I always get up that early?

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Are there even places that do differently? That's the pashtis halacha.
Why is that the pashtus? The pashtus is tefilla b'tzibbur needs a tzibbur davening together (i.e. 10) and davar shebikdusha needs 6/10. Instead they are being meikel on tefilla b'tzibbur which is more important and machmir on davar shebikdusha which is less important.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Why is that the pashtus? The pashtus is tefilla b'tzibbur needs a tzibbur davening together (i.e. 10)
That is not the pashtus of the Rambam

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I'm constantly bewildered at how many people aren't aware of basic hilchos tefilla, as in Shachris after chatzos is an issur of Bracha Levatala, and the main inyan in tefilla betzibur ('minyan') is starting Shmone Esre together with 9 others, and not Barchu/Kedusha etc.
Or Birkas krias shma after sof zman tefilla is a bracha l'vatolo (potential leniency if ones).

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Didn't know this. What if I always get up that early?
You get up that early?
If you would, the whole reason you wouldn't be able to eat is because you are Mekabel the fast when you go to sleep (even if you aren't actually Mekabel it with your mind...) This being the case, (of waking up before the fast starts, you were never Mekabel the fast earlier, since you don't have in mind that You will be sleeping then... As opposed to ppl who usually don't get up that early, if they should happen to wake up early w/o making such a stipulation, it's too late to eat since you were already Mekabel the fast...

(My understanding,.. Correct me If I'm wrong...)