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I would like a list of potential pitfalls. This is not the Shulchan Aruch here, but to raise awareness, so people will know to look into it, or ask their rabbi.
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #420 on: July 05, 2024, 01:36:32 PM »
altogether unclear why a LED light would be considered muktza (or anything more than מלאכתו לאיסור)
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #421 on: July 05, 2024, 01:38:34 PM »
Quote from: imayid2 on July 05, 2024, 01:36:32 PM
altogether unclear why a LED light would be considered muktza (or anything more than מלאכתו לאיסור)
It is clear that those letters were written for the older version which was using florescent CFL bulbs not LEDs.
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #422 on: July 06, 2024, 04:02:16 PM »
Quote from: yungermanchik on July 05, 2024, 01:38:34 PM
It is clear that those letters were written for the older version which was using florescent CFL bulbs not LEDs.
How is florescent different from LED after its already on?
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #423 on: July 07, 2024, 02:09:54 AM »
Just posting from r Cohens sefer
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #424 on: July 07, 2024, 02:52:22 AM »
Quote from: justaregularguy on July 07, 2024, 02:09:54 AM
Just posting from r Cohens sefer
When was this sefer published?
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #425 on: July 07, 2024, 11:27:51 AM »
Quote from: Moshe Green on July 07, 2024, 02:52:22 AM
When was this sefer published?
um not sure, have you not heard of this sefer? It’s a super popular set on hilchos shabbos. He wrote ‘the sanctity of shabbos, the aura of shabbos, the shabbos home 1-2, laws of yom tov etc etc etc
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #426 on: July 07, 2024, 05:00:04 PM »
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #427 on: July 08, 2024, 05:15:21 AM »
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #428 on: July 08, 2024, 06:51:24 AM »
Quote from: yfr bachur on July 08, 2024, 05:15:21 AM
i.e. before LEDs existed...
If someone is able to get Rav Cohen's # and call him that would be the best...
I've done so with other Halacha Sefarim and the author has clarified things...
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #429 on: July 08, 2024, 07:01:51 AM »
Quote from: Moshe Green on July 06, 2024, 04:02:16 PM
How is florescent different from LED after its already on?

Is it maybe that the way fluorescents produce light include arcing electricity and glowing gas which makes it closer to the "Ner" of the original takana?
Whereas LED are a glowing mineral which is not similar to the Neros of the Gemara?
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #430 on: July 08, 2024, 08:42:56 AM »
Quote from: yfr bachur on July 08, 2024, 07:01:51 AM
Is it maybe that the way fluorescents produce light include arcing electricity and glowing gas which makes it closer to the "Ner" of the original takana?
Whereas LED are a glowing mineral which is not similar to the Neros of the Gemara?
They are not a glowing mineral
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #431 on: July 08, 2024, 09:09:45 AM »
Quote from: aygart on July 08, 2024, 08:42:56 AM
They are not a glowing mineral

ok. electroluminescence of semiconductor material.
I was writing in simple (though less accurate) language
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #432 on: July 08, 2024, 05:13:56 PM »
Quote from: Moshe Green on July 08, 2024, 06:51:24 AM
If someone is able to get Rav Cohen's # and call him that would be the best...
I've done so with other Halacha Sefarim and the author has clarified things...

https://www.godaven.com/shul-details/2157?from_search=true&latitude=40.10482&longitude=-74.19889

The number under the address is the shul's office phone and the number next to his name is his home number.
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #433 on: July 09, 2024, 03:55:42 AM »
I checked the new edition of Zachor V'Shamor (Rav PE Falk) in Maavir and he more or less rules out issues of tiltul b'ner with any electric lights (candles too!).
The new edition does not yet have section on Muktza... so if anyone has access to the old edition....
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Re: Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)
« Reply #434 on: August 08, 2024, 09:34:54 AM »
Cleaning help should not be left unsupervised in one’s home if they know you will not be home at a certain time.
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