Is there any value in Chiropractors?

[ExGingi]

IINM On the most basic level, people usually go to Chiropractors for back pain (bulging disc?), as I have in the past. There was once a chiropractor that was able to provide me immediate relief, but most others were just marginal. When I had sciatica pain years ago, I saw a chiropractor in WB that gave me several weeks of spinal decompression on a machine that literally stretches your back. It did seem to help for quite a few years of me not experiencing sciatica or spinal pain from a disc bulge.

When I recently suffered sharp spinal pain when bending down to pick something that fell on the floor, I was thinking of going again to a chiropractor, but couldn't find one within walking distance, so I held off. In the meantime I researched various YouTube videos on treating these kinds of issues, and following the exercises I saw, I had immediate partial relief, and full recovery in a couple of days. Most of the videos were from physical therapists rather than chiropractors.

My experience is leading me to believe that one could be better and FASTER served by following the right stretches and exercises, than by going to a chiropractor! I am not even talking about chiropractors who claim to help other health issues that aren't joint related.

Your thoughts and experiences?

[Euclid]

(Perfect thread topic for the Health discussion board )

[justaregularguy]

Had back pain for a long time, leaning over Gemara etc. went to PT, chiro, sarno’s book, whole nine yards.
I think it was kind of stress in a way and now I work (computer job) but at least not leaning over and bh don’t feel that kind of pain. Little off topic sorry.
I felt like PT did the same back cracking as chiro, but PT gave you exercises before and after so I think I got more from PT. Not sure what gain there is in chiro over PT

[Yef]

Dr Sarno method is the mehalech with back pain. Boduck umenusa!!

[ExGingi]

Dr Sarno method is the mehalech with back pain. Boduck umenusa!!

I think it's a combination of PT and Dr Sarno (I have no personal experience with Dr Sarno but know people who it did wonders for).

I think that one of the things that helped me by watching the videos I found on YouTube, is better understanding the mechanism of the pain, and of the potential cure/healing. I honestly thought up until I watched those videos, that the pain is caused by the bones irritating the nerve due to the reduced cushioning.

Understanding the mechanics helped me focus on stretches and exercises that actually helped (also slept one night with a hot pack on the pain area, which might have increased blood flow to the area, speeding up healing.

[ExGingi]

Dr Sarno method is the mehalech with back pain. Boduck umenusa!!

FWIU it works best for those that have better control of מוח שליט על הלב.

[Yef]

Pt and sarno is a little of a stira.
And sarno is Lav davka. Other forms of stress/anxiety reduction is also very helpful for people.

[ExGingi]

Pt and sarno is a little of a stira.
And sarno is Lav davka. Other forms of stress/anxiety reduction is also very helpful for people.

I don't see it as a stira. PT can give relaxing exercises, and when tying mind and body, exercise can definitely help with stress relief.

[mevinyavin]

Fellow I know has a Sarno book gemach. Rabbi Berkovits gave him a haskama for it. A talmid of R Berkovits said the Rav had been suffering from terrible back pain for many years. Someone told him (baal peh) the basic idea, and by the next morning he was no longer suffering...

I've been to a chiropractor for posture problems, and I "grew" half an inch in three months after doing his exercises (I was done growing taller years earlier). No PT experience to compare with.

[Moshe Green]

Fellow I know has a Sarno book gemach. Rabbi Berkovits gave him a haskama for it. A talmid of R Berkovits said the Rav had been suffering from terrible back pain for many years. Someone told him (baal peh) the basic idea, and by the next morning he was no longer suffering...

I've been to a chiropractor for posture problems, and I "grew" half an inch in three months after doing his exercises (I was done growing taller years earlier). No PT experience to compare with.

Wow! I didn't realize Rav Berkowitz was a doctor as well!

[jj1000]

In the meantime I researched various YouTube videos on treating these kinds of issues,

Your thoughts and experiences?

IME if you have the time you can replace MANY professions and specialists with YouTube.

Plumbers, electricians, appliance repairmen, coders, website builders, video editors, legal filings, the list can go on to pretty much any profession most of the time, besides perhaps surgeons...

[Moshe Green]

IME if you have the time you can replace MANY professions and specialists with YouTube.

Plumbers, electricians, appliance repairmen, coders, website builders, video editors, legal filings, the list can go on to pretty much any profession most of the time, besides perhaps surgeons...

By brother-in-law surprised everyone with an extremely fancy (real fancy-not ketchup) professionally looking, carved watermelon for a family simcha. You-Tube.

[ExGingi]

IME if you have the time you can replace MANY professions and specialists with YouTube.

Plumbers, electricians, appliance repairmen, coders, website builders, video editors, legal filings, the list can go on to pretty much any profession most of the time, besides perhaps surgeons...

Very different.

I am USING physical therapist on YouTube no differently than they would be in person. Chiropractors manually manipulate. PT instruct on what patients should do themselves.

I am NOT saying to go to YouTube to acquire a skill. I AM saying that the right approach is PT (+Sarno method) vs DC. I'm surprised you missed the distinction.

[Euclid]

IME if you have the time you can replace MANY professions and specialists with YouTube.

Plumbers, electricians, appliance repairmen, coders, website builders, video editors, legal filings, the list can go on to pretty much any profession most of the time, besides perhaps surgeons...

Takes a long time to sift thru the garbage; just as good of a chance you'll end up down some conspiracy theory type rabbit hole. "I did my own research."

[yelped]

My sister in law swears by a chiropractor in BP for a bunch of random ailments unrelated to back muscles.

[notyettaken]

My sister in law swears by a chiropractor in BP for a bunch of random ailments unrelated to back muscles.

everyone has a sister in law like this

[ExGingi]

everyone has a sister in law (or mechutonim) like this.

FTFY.

[Yehuda57]

My sister in law swears by a chiropractor in BP for a bunch of random ailments unrelated to back muscles.

For every person who swears by them there is another swearing at them

[dasmo801]

Takes a long time to sift thru the garbage; just as good of a chance you'll end up down some conspiracy theory type rabbit hole. "I did my own research."

Sort of like going to a chiropractor...

[EliJelly]

Took DW to a chiropractor once for sciatic nerve issues. By the introductory we realized this person who has a very good reputation uses all tactics from the scam book, which is likely a necessity for this trade - promising the world, generally mocking conventional medical treatments, expressing overly excessive empathy and care like repeating every two minutes "I want you to be able to dance by your niece's wedding next Monday, and I can assure you you will" and things of that manipulative stuff like texting at night how she feels. He also offered a great discount if we sign up and pay upfront for the 40 sessions needed (!!). After 3 sessions we decided we've had enough and switched to PT instead.