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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2024, 08:18:05 AM »
We will literally need to toivel our whole house, car, and office...

Only if you are eating bitahara, but yes and it will be very hard on the women.
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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2024, 08:36:25 AM »
We will literally need to toivel our whole house, car, and office...

My Rov told me I don’t need to toivel my house because it plugs into the grid :P
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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2024, 09:37:15 AM »
We will literally need to toivel our whole house, car, and office...

A car is more than 40 seah
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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2024, 09:52:07 AM »
A car is more than 40 seah
It’s מטלטל מלא וריקם though

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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #24 on: April 02, 2024, 10:31:14 AM »
Wouldn't all the avodah be done by the thousands of holy and experienced kohanim who will stand up בתחיית המתים until we 2024 mostly amei horatzim yidden will catch up on all of that? Not trying to diminish the excitement of getting prepared and learned to be ready for the task, but that's how I feel about it. Your thoughts?
The chofetz Chaim in his hakdama to likutei halachos, his Halacha Sefer on kodshim disagrees. He writes that we have to learn the halachos of the korbanos so that there will be talmidei chachamim who can guide the kohanim should moshiach suddenly come.

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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #25 on: April 02, 2024, 10:33:12 AM »
Only if you are eating bitahara, but yes and it will be very hard on the women.
It sure will. Even among the few women who join their husbands in yerushalayim, many of them will have to end up finding an alternate Seder to attend away from their husbands and families without a korban pesach or chagigah, which they can not participate in due to niddah or zivah. As timei’im, they will not be allowed to attend a Seder together with tehorim…

Most women will be nowhere near the seder anyway. The three regalim were not like some giant family friendly pesach hotel excursion.  When there was a beis hamikdash, pesach shavuos and sukkos were largely gender separate events far away from family. Kind of like going to Uman three times a year. Mandatory.

All able bodied men would have to take the long journey to be oleh regel to yerushalayim and would celebrate yom tov by themselves while women and family would make yom tov alone in their distant home towns. The furthest of them would not see their husbands for three full months over the span of a year, from two weeks before the regel to two weeks after the regel. That was travel time as per the Gemara in taanis. This was three times a year, mandatory each time. Sort of reverse bungalow colony where all the women and little kids stay in the city.

It was a very different yom tov experience.
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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #26 on: April 02, 2024, 10:37:07 AM »
It’s מטלטל מלא וריקם though

IIRC It is wrong for a different reason. Ba bimidah is still tamei midras
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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #27 on: April 02, 2024, 11:02:27 AM »
The chofetz Chaim in his hakdama to likutei halachos, his Halacha Sefer on kodshim disagrees. He writes that we have to learn the halachos of the korbanos so that there will be talmidei chachamim who can guide the kohanim should moshiach suddenly come.

I remember that the Cofetz Chaim was pushing for learning kodshim for this reason, does he mention anything about the kohanim and sanhedrin who will be קם לתחיה, because curious why they wouldn't be the ones to guide us. Gotta look it up.

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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #28 on: April 02, 2024, 12:23:32 PM »
I'm pretty sure that by the Rambam's order (end of melachim) techiya is later than the other stages.
This wouldn't preclude having unique individuals/tzadikim arise earlier/immediately.

But very possible we are obligated to be prepared and not allowed to rely on these (undefined?) exceptions?

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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #29 on: April 02, 2024, 01:47:25 PM »
IIRC It is wrong for a different reason. Ba bimidah is still tamei midras
It is wrong because 40 Seah is by כלי עץ, fwi.

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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #30 on: April 02, 2024, 01:49:03 PM »
Kohanim with long payos will need to cut them off (pashtus)

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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #32 on: April 02, 2024, 03:15:03 PM »
It is wrong because 40 Seah is by כלי עץ, fwi.
Yes that too
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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #33 on: April 02, 2024, 04:20:56 PM »
Kohanim with long payos will need to cut them off (pashtus)
Aderaba, the Gemara asks about a Kohen who does Avoda when his hair is outside chomas ha'azera if it is kosher, what can it be if not for long payos? (think about the thichkness of the wall :))

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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #34 on: April 02, 2024, 06:31:01 PM »
Aderaba, the Gemara asks about a Kohen who does Avoda when his hair is outside chomas ha'azera if it is kosher, what can it be if not for long payos? (think about the thichkness of the wall :))

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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #35 on: April 02, 2024, 06:34:41 PM »
Aderaba, the Gemara asks about a Kohen who does Avoda when his hair is outside chomas ha'azera if it is kosher, what can it be if not for long payos? (think about the thichkness of the wall :))

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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #36 on: April 02, 2024, 06:49:33 PM »
(שוב מצאתי ספר קטן וחומש שמו)...
Nice, where does this phrase come from?

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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #37 on: April 02, 2024, 07:04:08 PM »
Nice, where does this phrase come from?
old joke about a litvak who focused so much on gemara and lomdus that he neglected chumash
(after multi-page pilpul ends off with that...)

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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #38 on: April 02, 2024, 07:52:40 PM »
I remember that the Cofetz Chaim was pushing for learning kodshim for this reason, does he mention anything about the kohanim and sanhedrin who will be קם לתחיה, because curious why they wouldn't be the ones to guide us. Gotta look it up.


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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2024, 08:01:12 PM »
https://www.eichlers.com/hilcheta-limeshicha-halacha-hs44162.html

The English version of this excellent Sefer is also available. I'll find out more.
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