Eurovision: Eden Golan's October Rain/Hurricane In Malmo

[YitzyS]

"Before you say I’m paranoid about the results, just take a look at like this juror"

[DaasTora]

“ But in the end, in the face of incredible adversity, Eden Golan stood as a proud Jew, not a Jew with trembling knees, but one ready to take on the world, even if the world is blinded by hate and lies.”
What’s so “proud Jew”ish of stamping on the Torah?  I’m a “proud Jew” with “trembling knees” as long as we’re in galus.

[ExGingi]

Don't hold back.

I won't. The validity that any of this is getting makes me want to puke.

[CountValentine]

I won't. The validity that any of this is getting makes me want to puke.

What do you consider or do for entertainment?

[CountValentine]

“ But in the end, in the face of incredible adversity, Eden Golan stood as a proud Jew, not a Jew with trembling knees, but one ready to take on the world, even if the world is blinded by hate and lies.”
What’s so “proud Jew”ish of stamping on the Torah?  I’m a “proud Jew” with “trembling knees” as long as we’re in galus.

Do you have to practice Judaism to be a proud Jew?

[ExGingi]

[ExGingi]

What do you consider or do for entertainment?

Duh. I go on DDF.

[DaasTora]

Do you have to practice Judaism to be a proud Jew?

I suppose that when you’re proud of something, you practice it.

[Just A Jew]

Do you have to practice Judaism to be a proud Jew?

No

[ExGingi]

I suppose that when you’re proud of something, you practice it.

How about a תינוק שנשבה that is proud?

[yochai]

“Eurovision forced some changes and it became Hurricane (new lyrics in the description) ”

It’s worth noting that is was a big debate in Israel whether to revise to lyrics or back out of the contest in protest of them getting involved in the content. Even President Herzog got involved.
In the end it’s a good thing they participated and made the world look in the mirror.

[DaasTora]

How about a תינוק שנשבה that is proud?

Proud of what?

[CountValentine]

I suppose that when you’re proud of something, you practice it.

As usual just when I think I understand something a wrench gets thrown into the mix.
You can't be a non-religious proud Jew?
It seems you are saying Jew=Judaism?

[CountValentine]

Eurovision forced some changes and it became Hurricane (new lyrics in the description)

Dan posted both versions up thread.

[yochai]

“Eurovision forced some changes and it became Hurricane (new lyrics in the description) ”

It’s worth noting that is was a big debate in Israel whether to revise to lyrics or back out of the contest in protest of them getting involved in the content. Even President Herzog got involved.
In the end it’s a good thing they participated and made the world look in the mirror.

Dan posted both versions up thread.

I was in middle of replying to it but lost the quotation marks.

[DaasTora]

As usual just when I think I understand something a wrench gets thrown into the mix.
You can't be a non-religious proud Jew?
It seems you are saying Jew=Judaism?

Judaism is a religion based race. Our identity is one with our religion. Unfortunately over the years in exile many people lost their religious observance. They remain Jews and we love them and hope for them to return. I don’t think there’s any “Jewish” pride in doing what she did. Jewish pride is strictly when doing “Jewish” things. For example putting on teffilin in face of antisemitism or similar things.

[CountValentine]

Judaism is a religion based race. Our identity is one with our religion. Unfortunately over the years in exile many people lost their religious observance. They remain Jews and we love them and hope for them to return. I don’t think there’s any “Jewish” pride in doing what she did. Jewish pride is strictly when doing “Jewish” things. For example putting on teffilin in face of antisemitism or similar things.

Appreciate your viewpoint.

[Just A Jew]

How about a תינוק שנשבה that is proud?

Even not tinok shenishba. None of us are perfect. Jewish pride has nothing to do with observance.

[zh cohen]

Campaigning is not the same as cheating.

[CountValentine]

Jewish pride has nothing to do with observance.

Appreciate your viewpoint.

This needs its own thread for next Friday.