Author Topic: The Rolls Must Be Hamotzi, But The Milk Can Be Cholov Stam  (Read 94704 times)

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Re: The Rolls Must Be Hamotzi, But The Milk Can Be Cholov Stam
« Reply #260 on: June 06, 2014, 05:17:56 PM »
Once a week? Huh?

Yessir.  i live in the real out of towns. 

(Actually, BOS is a neat place to live, because it's sort of on the edge of civilization.  It is a large full service city (minus the frum stuff), and only 3.5 hours from NY, but go north or east and its all wild.  I'm 2 hours from NH's white mountains, and maybe 4 to areas of ME where there are more moose than people and the roads are dirt logging roads.)

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Re: The Rolls Must Be Hamotzi, But The Milk Can Be Cholov Stam
« Reply #261 on: June 06, 2014, 05:39:45 PM »
Once a week? Huh?
when I was growing up in St. Louis, it was once a month, IIRC.

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Re: The Rolls Must Be Hamotzi, But The Milk Can Be Cholov Stam
« Reply #262 on: June 06, 2014, 05:41:58 PM »
As WIC recipients, we get a couple of cases of milk a month. They freeze very well and we just take one out of the freezer every night, and never have to worry about running out. (or paying  ;)  :-[  :P )

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Re: The Rolls Must Be Hamotzi, But The Milk Can Be Cholov Stam
« Reply #263 on: June 06, 2014, 06:03:08 PM »
As WIC recipients, we get a couple of cases of milk a month. They freeze very well and we just take one out of the freezer every night, and never have to worry about running out. (or paying  ;)  :-[  :P )
aaahhh....
The good old days  :)

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Re: The Rolls Must Be Hamotzi, But The Milk Can Be Cholov Stam
« Reply #264 on: June 06, 2014, 06:25:18 PM »
As WIC recipients, we get a couple of cases of milk a month. They freeze very well and we just take one out of the freezer every night, and never have to worry about running out. (or paying  ;)  :-[  :P )
Let's keep this thread for those of us who pay for our groceries

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Re: The Rolls Must Be Hamotzi, But The Milk Can Be Cholov Stam
« Reply #265 on: June 06, 2014, 06:33:33 PM »
Let's keep this thread for those of us who pay for our groceries
The point was that milk is freezable. For those who live out of town and have a hard time keeping CY.

Im glad that you can afford to pay for your groceries btw. You are very fortunate; but why keep the poor out of the thread  ???

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Re: The Rolls Must Be Hamotzi, But The Milk Can Be Cholov Stam
« Reply #266 on: June 06, 2014, 06:38:57 PM »
The point was that milk is freezable. For those who live out of town and have a hard time keeping CY.

Im glad that you can afford to pay for your groceries btw. You are very fortunate; but why keep the poor out of the thread  ???
nothing against WIC or the people benefitting but, can I ask how you are able to "churnbabychurn" with an income that makes you eligible for WIC? What's the secret there? Some of us have a hard time with a decent income...

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Re: The Rolls Must Be Hamotzi, But The Milk Can Be Cholov Stam
« Reply #267 on: June 06, 2014, 06:44:55 PM »
nothing against WIC or the people benefitting but, can I ask how you are able to "churnbabychurn" with an income that makes you eligible for WIC? What's the secret there? Some of us have a hard time with a decent income...
To be eligible for WIC a family of my size has to gross less than 51k annually.

I might be CBC but still haven't reached $50k+ annual income from churning. 

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Re: The Rolls Must Be Hamotzi, But The Milk Can Be Cholov Stam
« Reply #268 on: June 06, 2014, 07:02:18 PM »
Okay.  Time to continue the wic convo in another thread.
Thanx. 

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Re: The Rolls Must Be Hamotzi, But The Milk Can Be Cholov Stam
« Reply #269 on: June 06, 2014, 07:08:15 PM »
Frozen milk illustration:
Rip one side of case before freezing, they expand.. Do not use a box cutter!!

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Re: The Rolls Must Be Hamotzi, But The Milk Can Be Cholov Stam
« Reply #270 on: June 06, 2014, 07:56:57 PM »
I'm shocked that people here would make a Ruchniyus decision based on $500/yr.

I just spent 10 times that to be in yeshiva Shavous night, and I'm sure the real value is 1000 times that.
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Re: The Rolls Must Be Hamotzi, But The Milk Can Be Cholov Stam
« Reply #271 on: June 06, 2014, 08:00:37 PM »
I'm shocked that people here would make a Ruchniyus decision based on $500/yr.
Agreed. Raising a frum family is a 7 figure investment when everything is said and done. To make C"Y a monetary issue in an era when we're not talking big bucks is disheartening.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: The Rolls Must Be Hamotzi, But The Milk Can Be Cholov Stam
« Reply #272 on: June 06, 2014, 08:03:48 PM »
I'm shocked that people here would make a Ruchniyus decision based on $500/yr.

I just spent 10 times that to be in yeshiva Shavous night, and I'm sure the real value is 1000 times that.

That again depends on a persons minhag, and their view on C"Y to begin with IMO.
I don't eat chalav stam just because it's cheaper. But I would perhaps eat it if it wasn't more expensive. That's just me at least.
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Re: The Rolls Must Be Hamotzi, But The Milk Can Be Cholov Stam
« Reply #273 on: June 07, 2014, 11:29:00 PM »
I'm shocked that people here would make a Ruchniyus decision based on $500/yr.

Not so surprising.  We grew up eating CS. Our friends eat CS. Many of our rebbeim eat CS.  Its pure inertia also

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Re: The Rolls Must Be Hamotzi, But The Milk Can Be Cholov Stam
« Reply #274 on: June 08, 2014, 12:04:20 AM »
Not so surprising.  We grew up eating CS. Our friends eat CS. Many of our rebbeim eat CS.  Its pure inertia also
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Re: The Rolls Must Be Hamotzi, But The Milk Can Be Cholov Stam
« Reply #275 on: June 08, 2014, 02:03:59 AM »
There's also the point that if everyone only ate cy the price would go down. as more companies would start offering it,  more companies would produce it.
As a side note,  I can't believe process in Lakewood are so high,  in California we are paying those prices and we have to cover refrigerated shipping.
Till this year,  California produced is own cy milk. Price was about 2 for half a gallon.  Now it's 4.59

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Re: The Rolls Must Be Hamotzi, But The Milk Can Be Cholov Stam
« Reply #276 on: June 17, 2014, 10:50:23 AM »
According to this article, companies use milk powder from all over the world. These powders would not have reb moshes heter.
Does the OU not allow milk powder from out of the usa?

http://yudelstake.blogspot.com/2014/05/milk-in-todays-times.html#more

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Re: The Rolls Must Be Hamotzi, But The Milk Can Be Cholov Stam
« Reply #277 on: June 17, 2014, 11:49:24 AM »
According to this article, companies use milk powder from all over the world. These powders would not have reb moshes heter.
Does the OU not allow milk powder from out of the usa?

http://yudelstake.blogspot.com/2014/05/milk-in-todays-times.html#more
Milk powder has a completely sep heter from R Tzvi Pesach Frank (before R Moshe)
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Re: The Rolls Must Be Hamotzi, But The Milk Can Be Cholov Stam
« Reply #278 on: June 17, 2014, 11:55:59 AM »
Milk powder has a completely sep heter from R Tzvi Pesach Frank (before R Moshe)
True.

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Re: Boycott the Borsalino price-hike
« Reply #279 on: January 22, 2015, 09:31:18 AM »
Or Cholov Aku"m
Why do you insist on calling something kosher, treif?
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.