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Who do you think will win the superbowl

Giants
33 (53.2%)
Patriots
11 (17.7%)
Do not care
13 (21%)
Cant vote because I am a jets fan!
5 (8.1%)

Total Members Voted: 62

Voting closed: February 06, 2012, 12:48:30 AM

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Re: Superbowl
« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2012, 10:08:25 AM »
So are we DOing it? I'll bring the beer.

Just tell me where :)

My Mom was planning my wedding and she was casually throwing around first sunday in Feb I told her Enjoy the wedding and let me know how it was Because I aint coming!

Don't let your kallah/wife hear you say that...

ROFL! I am talking about CH or general NYC area. I assume AsherO is also if he is serious...

I was serious, even though I don't give a rats @$$ for football, or any sports for that matter.

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Re: Superbowl
« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2012, 10:13:57 AM »
I was serious, even though I don't give a rats @$$ for football, or any sports for that matter.
I knew there wasn't something right about you!

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Re: Superbowl
« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2012, 10:16:23 AM »
I knew there wasn't something right about you!

j/k

Just like"there isn't something right" with your grammar? :P
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Re: Superbowl
« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2012, 10:20:14 AM »
Just like"there isn't something right" with your grammar? :P
If improving my grammar would help me get better offers I would work on it. No one seems to complain about my grammar when answering there PM’s.  ;)
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Re: Superbowl
« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2012, 10:22:04 AM »
If improving my grammar would help me get better offers I would work on it. No one seems to complain about my grammar when answering there PM’s.  ;)

I think you mean their :P
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Re: Superbowl
« Reply #35 on: February 02, 2012, 10:27:38 AM »

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Re: Superbowl
« Reply #36 on: February 02, 2012, 10:40:03 AM »


Don't let your kallah/wife hear you say that...
I was more concerned with having other people show up!

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Re: Superbowl
« Reply #37 on: February 02, 2012, 12:30:30 PM »
I was more concerned with having other people show up!
Went to a wedding during the ravens/pats and giants/49ers games in baltimore.  Half the crowd was at the hotel bar the entire time...
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Re: Superbowl
« Reply #38 on: February 02, 2012, 01:52:25 PM »
You must play meaningful games against one another to enter into the discussion of a rivalry.

Totally disagree. There are really 3 components to rivalry.

The first is that the teams are competing closely with each other for some goal or other. Everyone is out to win the SB, or any sports' championship. But there's an added level of gunning for a division/conference/league title, or even 2 teams that are frequently in direct competition for a wild card as the season winds down. This aspect of competition becomes more intense if the 2 teams get to play each other because a win means twice as much  - it helps you and hurts your competition.

The second is that the teams are both relevant in the race for the given goal. It's hard to say that 2 teams in a division are rivals if one is projected to be 14-2 and the other 2-14.

The third is that the teams have satisfied the first 2 requirements often, especially in recent history.

The point of all this is that 2 teams in the same city, aside for competing for their division/league title etc, are also always competing to be "the team" of that city. This is more true in NYC than anywhere else. The bigger issue is that so often the 2 NY sports teams in a given sport aren't frequently competitive at the same time. So they lack the history aspect. But in a year where they're both in the playoff conversation (like this year) or they play each other (like this year), the rivalry aspect is in full force. And anyone who followed the Jets and Giants in the weeks leading up to their game knows that the teams and their fans felt that way.

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Re: Superbowl
« Reply #39 on: February 02, 2012, 01:57:21 PM »
Totally disagree. There are really 3 components to rivalry.

The first is that the teams are competing closely with each other for some goal or other. Everyone is out to win the SB, or any sports' championship. But there's an added level of gunning for a division/conference/league title, or even 2 teams that are frequently in direct competition for a wild card as the season winds down. This aspect of competition becomes more intense if the 2 teams get to play each other because a win means twice as much  - it helps you and hurts your competition.

The second is that the teams are both relevant in the race for the given goal. It's hard to say that 2 teams in a division are rivals if one is projected to be 14-2 and the other 2-14.

The third is that the teams have satisfied the first 2 requirements often, especially in recent history.

The point of all this is that 2 teams in the same city, aside for competing for their division/league title etc, are also always competing to be "the team" of that city. This is more true in NYC than anywhere else. The bigger issue is that so often the 2 NY sports teams in a given sport aren't frequently competitive at the same time. So they lack the history aspect. But in a year where they're both in the playoff conversation (like this year) or they play each other (like this year), the rivalry aspect is in full force. And anyone who followed the Jets and Giants in the weeks leading up to their game knows that the teams and their fans felt that way.

so you're saying that the giants-falcons is a rivalry??  :o

granted they competed this year but that doesn't make them a rivalry. a rivalry is actually based on the history aspect which you are disregarding

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Re: Superbowl
« Reply #40 on: February 02, 2012, 02:16:55 PM »
Battle of New York: Jets vs. Giants
Main article: Giants–Jets rivalry
Over the years, there have actually been several NFL teams playing in the New York City metropolitan area, but the Giants and the Jets are the only surviving teams.
The modern rivalry dates back to 1970, when the Giants beat the Jets 22-10 at Shea Stadium. The Jets won 4 of the next 6 meetings to take a 4-3 series lead heading into the 1996 meeting.
One of the more memorable contests was in 1974. The game went into overtime - 1974 was the first year of overtime in the regular season. The Jets and Giants played a back-and-forth game, with most of the time having either the score tied or the Giants in the lead. Entering overtime, the score was tied at 20, but the Jets would take the victory when Joe Namath threw a 5-yard touchdown pass to Emerson Boozer. This is seen as some as the true beginning of the rivalry. Oddly enough, it was not played in New York, but rather the Yale Bowl in New Haven, Connecticut - the Giants' then-home, Yankee Stadium, was being renovated and thus unavailable for use (New Haven is today considered part of the extended NYC metro area).
The rivalry became more heated in the 1980s, when the Jets left Shea Stadium to take residence as tenants in Giants Stadium. The Jets had to pay dues to the Giants. This ended in 2010 when MetLife Stadium opened - it is a joint partnership between both teams. Most recently, in 2011, the Giants defeated the Jets in a heated Christmas Eve match that had major playoff implications. The convincing victory propelled the Giants to a playoff run and eliminated the Jets from postseason contention.
The teams will meet next in 2015, and every four years after that.
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Re: Superbowl
« Reply #41 on: February 02, 2012, 03:10:36 PM »
so you're saying that the giants-falcons is a rivalry??  :o

granted they competed this year but that doesn't make them a rivalry. a rivalry is actually based on the history aspect which you are disregarding

Personally I would take the time to read someone's comment before quoting it, but that's just me.

The third is that the teams have satisfied the first 2 requirements often, especially in recent history.

Since 2000, they each have had only 3 losing seasons and each has had a better record than the other 6 times over that 12 season span. The Giants obviously are the better team historically, and probably more New York's team because of that, but recently they have been more evenly matched. The Giants making and possibly winning the SB this year on top of '07 obviously tilts the discussion farther in their favor, but we're not lopsided to the point where Jet fans would all agree that the Giants have been the better team, as would probably be the case with the Mets and Yanks.

The rivalry became more heated in the 1980s, when the Jets left Shea Stadium to take residence as tenants in Giants Stadium. The Jets had to pay dues to the Giants. This ended in 2010 when MetLife Stadium opened - it is a joint partnership between both teams.
Totally forgot to mention this part. They play in the same building!!!! Sometimes even on the same week. All sports teams have a "this is OUR house" thing going on, especially in football. The fact that you share a stadium with another team is definitely an added factor in the rivalry.
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Re: Superbowl
« Reply #42 on: February 02, 2012, 03:20:10 PM »
anyone actually going to the superbowl

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Re: Superbowl
« Reply #43 on: February 02, 2012, 03:21:28 PM »
anyone actually going to the superbowl
yup around 80000 people! ;)

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Re: Superbowl
« Reply #44 on: February 02, 2012, 03:30:14 PM »
Personally I would take the time to read someone's comment before quoting it, but that's just me.


okay so your first component is that there is a direct competition between them which doesn't apply by giants-jets seeing how they are in different  conferences and only play once every 4 years.

second was that they both have to be relevant and as you so nicely pointed out most years that is not the case.

in which case the third obviously doesn't apply either.

as for your conclusion that they are battling for the city that might be true as for the last 2 years but that's it. My point was that 2 years does not make a rivalry especially when you only played each other once during that span. If the jets were to be completely irrelevant next year I wouldn't care if they went 6-10 or 7-9 but regardless how bad the eagles are doing I always want them to lost the next game.