What Would an ALL OUT Hezbollah-Israel War Look Like?

[aygart]

Hard to even say Israel started it at this point.

Since when did that stop literally anyone.

[jj1000]

Since when did that stop literally anyone.

Internally?

Many times.

Israel didn't go to war with Gaza pre 10/7. Even more so attack another country.

[yelped]

Internally?

Many times.

Israel didn't go to war with Gaza pre 10/7. Even more so attack another country.

That's exactly the problem. Israel will be blamed anyways. They should do what they need to do and do it at the best time for them, not "international consensus".

[davidd75]

6th day war style pre-emptive strike?

All out non-stop bombing with all of Israel's capabilities on every single Lebanon military target.

Would they not be justified in doing so, based on the current rocket attacks? Hard to even say Israel started it at this point.

This is not similar to 1967 where you can just take out the enemies air fleet and achieve superiority.  Hizballah apparently also has intricate deep underground tunnels that can withstand aerial bombardments.  This will be much different and longer war.

[jj1000]

This is not similar to 1967 where you can just take out the enemies air fleet and achieve superiority.  Hizballah apparently also has intricate deep underground tunnels that can withstand aerial bombardments.  This will be much different and longer war.

Depends on the objective.

[davidd75]

Depends on the objective.

please elaborate

[EliJelly]

Depends on the objective.

Fighting countries you can win easily with bringing down their air defense, air force jets and other visible targets, as any normal country would relent at that stage. Fighting a terror group is a total different animal, I mean look no further than what's currently happening in Gaza. As long they can hide missile launchers underground, within civilians, or anywhere else imaginable, and they have the manpower to launch them, they'll do so. Bringing up 1967 or preemptively striking at Lebanon is missing the picture. Hezbollah has way more advanced and deadlier missiles than Hamas, and even a few shot at Israel civil populations is more than what they can tolerate. Let alone from a Yiddish standpoint how catastrophic the loss of Jewish life is. Bderech h'teva we're best off if this war doesn't start.

 

[yelped]

Bderech h'teva we're best off if this war doesn't start.

 

Obviously, but the war did start 8 months ago.

[jj1000]

please elaborate

Are they looking for regime change? Or to beat them up enough that they are begging for cease fire now... if the latter, it seems achievable.

[EliJelly]

Obviously, but the war did start 8 months ago.

No, I'm talking when both sides go all out, then is when it becomes really dangerous. As of now it is a punch for a punch.

[yelped]

No, I'm talking when both sides go all out, then is when it becomes really dangerous. As of now it is a punch for a punch.

This is dangerous enough that 80,000 people can't live in their homes for 8 months.

[Just A Jew]

This is dangerous enough that 80,000 people can't live in their homes for 8 months.

Child's play compared to what all out war would look like. As much as we want to take them out completely, war with Hezbollah isn't something anyone should want.

[yelped]

Child's play compared to what all out war would look like. As much as we want to take them out completely, war with Hezbollah isn't something anyone should want.

No is disagreeing. But the current situation is unacceptable.

[Moshe Green]

Child's play compared to what all out war would look like. As much as we want to take them out completely, war with Hezbollah isn't something anyone should want.

This is not new. Around 18 years ago, hundreds of thousands of people who lived in the north had to move down.

But isn't 3 months of, lets say, 300,000 people moving south worth it if everyone can then move back afterwards?

[Just A Jew]

This is not new. Around 18 years ago, hundreds of thousands of people who lived in the north had to move down.

But isn't 3 months of, lets say, 300,000 people moving south worth it if everyone can then move back afterwards?

This isn't tenting your house for termites....

[davidd75]

Are they looking for regime change? Or to beat them up enough that they are begging for cease fire now... if the latter, it seems achievable.

I wish it will go so smoothly as possible however as pointed upthread:
1.  Israel is interested in taking out or seriously impairing Hezbollah not all of Lebanon for various reasons etc...
2.  Since Hezbollah also has undergrounds tunnels like Hamas beating them up enough is not so simple and easy(as evidenced in Gaza) when they can hide underground. 
3.  Unless they nuke or bunker bomb the tunnels(which may not be realistic) I dont see how this will be any easier or quicker than Gaza etc...

[jj1000]

I wish it will go so smoothly as possible however as pointed upthread:
1.  Israel is interested in taking out or seriously impairing Hezbollah not all of Lebanon for various reasons etc...
2.  Since Hezbollah also has undergrounds tunnels like Hamas beating them up enough is not so simple and easy(as evidenced in Gaza) when they can hide underground. 
3.  Unless they nuke or bunker bomb the tunnels(which may not be realistic) I dont see how this will be any easier or quicker than Gaza etc...

They are trying to accomplish regime change in Gaza.

[davidd75]

They are trying to accomplish regime change in Gaza.

and what;s the goal in Lebanon?

whether its a regime change or beat them up I dont see any smoother results due to intricate tunnels underground which the enemy has been preparing for decades.  Like I said this war will most likely be more difficult and unfortunately more casualties hashem ishmor

The only realistic option is to eschew the world and flatten them with bunker bombs etc..

[LongTimeLurker]

and what;s the goal in Lebanon?

whether its a regime change or beat them up I dont see any smoother results due to intricate tunnels underground which the enemy has been preparing for decades.  Like I said this war will most likely be more difficult and unfortunately more casualties hashem ishmor

The only realistic option is to eschew the world and flatten them with bunker bombs etc..

I think it will be difficult but it really depends on how Israel chooses to react. If Israel destroys Lebanon civillian wise I think the war will end much quicker, but if they just blow up South Lebanon I don't see that happening. Remember that from 1982-2000 there was the Southern Lebanese Army who Israel partnered with [for better or worse] which made that entire scenario different.

As for casualties: There will be casualties but I think the hysteria is overrated. Look at today (July 4 2024 for future readers), Hizbullah fired 200 odd rockets and drones as far south as Akko. 2 minor injuries from people running to the safe rooms. Yes, lots of fires. Yes lots of damage. But the hysterics of a full war with hizbullah and the 10,000 civillian casualties needs to die down.

[theblaide]

and what;s the goal in Lebanon?

whether its a regime change or beat them up I dont see any smoother results due to intricate tunnels underground which the enemy has been preparing for decades.  Like I said this war will most likely be more difficult and unfortunately more casualties hashem ishmor

The only realistic option is to eschew the world and flatten them with bunker bombs etc..

Hezbollah has regular army positions. The IDF Should start blowing up their bases and barracks.