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Who will win the debate on 6/27?

Trump
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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #140 on: July 01, 2024, 12:18:27 AM »
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #141 on: July 01, 2024, 12:47:24 AM »
They figured the stuff they gave him for SOTU would work for the debate. They probably got the dose wrong this time.
I read somewhere that these stuff only work once or a very limited amount of times, and usually after it wears off the patient is worse
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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #142 on: July 01, 2024, 05:50:41 PM »
Crazy that he’s even on the ballot then. It’s like voting to take your vote out of the equation. Maybe a nice way to signal you want neither candidate to be president, though your vote has no say in that matter.
He doesn’t need 270, just enough votes to prevent the other candidates from getting 270 either.
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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #143 on: July 01, 2024, 11:27:15 PM »
He doesn’t need 270, just enough votes to prevent the other candidates from getting 270 either.

And support from the D and Rs in Congress.
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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #144 on: July 02, 2024, 03:34:23 PM »
Lets show everyone that he is alive by arranging a sleepy friendly interview!

https://x.com/KFaulders/status/1808199015340589324
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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #145 on: July 02, 2024, 08:21:16 PM »
I bought shares at 57 cents. It's up to 61 cents now..

Back down to 50ish...

And Kamala is up to 30+

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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #146 on: July 02, 2024, 08:35:14 PM »
Whatever approach they take optics are going to be really bad

https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-kamala-harris-problem-biden-1920002
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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #147 on: July 02, 2024, 08:37:00 PM »
Whatever approach they take optics are going to be really bad

https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-kamala-harris-problem-biden-1920002
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As calls mount for President Joe Biden to drop out of the presidential race following a shaky debate performance, speculation has turned to who would be the best person to replace him; and the person who seems the clear choice, Vice President Kamala Harris, is not grabbing Democrats' attention amid concerns over her polling figures.

Biden has long faced concerns about his age and mental acuity, which came to a head following Thursday's debate, in which the 81-year-old president at times stumbled over his answers and appeared to lose his train of thought.

He has since faced calls to drop out from the race from within his own party, just four months before the election.

Newsweek has reached out to the Biden campaign for comment via email.

Harris would be the obvious person to turn to should Biden quit the race, being the president's deputy and first in the presidential line of succession.

But many Democratic speculators have been quick to overlook her, citing her poor polling, and instead have turned their attention to people like California Governor Gavin Newsom.

Others, however, disagreed with this position, citing Harris' role as second in command as the overriding factor.

"The whole point of being vice president is it means you're second in line, you're next up. And so it would just make no sense if we were to choose someone other than Kamala," Democratic strategist Michael Trujillo told Newsweek.

"If Kamala Harris isn't qualified, then why has she been our vice president for three and a half years? That just makes no sense."

In an emailed response to Newsweek's queries, Harris' spokesperson Kirsten Allen pointed to several of the vice-president's interviews since the debate.

In many of the interviews, Harris reiterated her support for Biden and called on people to focus on his record over the past three and a half years, rather than a single 90-minute debate performance.

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Vice President Kamala Harris on June 24, 2024, in College Park, Maryland. Analysts say Democrats could face issues if they overlook her as a potential replacement for Biden. KEVIN DIETSCH/GETTY IMAGES
Many have been quick to point out the poor optics of sidelining the first female vice president, who is also a woman of color.

Lakshya Jain, who works for electoral analysis site Split Ticket, wrote on X, formerly Twitter: "Harris is the *only* replacement choice in the unlikely event that Biden steps down. Even if you set aside the logistics of it all, how exactly does anyone think the party is going to bypass the first Black, female VP who leads all primary polls? You think things are bad *now*..."

Another X user noted: "Harris polls worse than Biden, but it's sacrilege to pass over the most obvious replacement when it's a Black woman."

Sam Rosenfeld, an associate professor of political science at New York's Colgate University, commented on the "crazy" narrative that there is no obvious candidate to replace Biden if he were to drop out.

"I know Harris has obvious political weaknesses and suffers from this kind of permanent all-pervasive collective skepticism, but still—this 'no clear replacement' is just crazy to me. She's the vice president!" he wrote.

Rachel Bitecofer, a political analyst, wrote on X: "Literally everyone who has told me Harris could be skipped over and Black voters would get over it has been a white person. Look, I'm so white I blend into snow, but I'm here to tell you, you f** over Black women, you are done."

Polls show that Harris is the top choice among voters to replace Biden should he abandon his reelection campaign.

But polling averages also suggest that Harris has an even bigger disadvantage than the president if she were to run against Trump.

RealClearPolling averages show that limited surveys suggest the former president leads Harris by 6.6 percentage points, with 49.3 percent support to the Democrat's 42.7 percent. The averages show Trump ahead of Biden by just 1.5 points, with 46.6 percent to the president's 45.1 percent.

In response to questions about Harris' polling problem, Trujillo pointed to the fact that no Democratic candidates are polling particularly well right now.

"Folks will say, 'well, look at her polling.' But no one's polling is great," he said, adding that her numbers would likely be boosted if she became the nominee and launched an official presidential campaign.

"In all the states that matter, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Nevada, they have really strong African American communities," he noted. "And who better than an African American woman to help turn out and increase the number of ballots we get from African American voter Democrats?"

Trujillo said that he believed the nomination would be Harris' unless she decided she did not want it.

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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #148 on: July 02, 2024, 08:51:05 PM »
Whatever approach they take optics are going to be really bad

https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-kamala-harris-problem-biden-1920002
They still have their heads buried in the sand if they think that people dislike Harris because she is black and that the black community will vote for her because she is black. It's so irrelevant. She is just an extremely condescending and irritating person.

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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #149 on: July 02, 2024, 08:53:57 PM »

Now we know what happens when you pick a VP based on gender instead of picking a VP based on qualifications...

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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #150 on: July 02, 2024, 08:56:30 PM »
Now we know what happens when you pick a VP based on gender instead of picking a VP based on qualifications...
Nailed it
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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #152 on: July 03, 2024, 12:34:24 AM »
I thought this line was hilarious.
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"If Kamala Harris isn't qualified, then why has she been our vice president for three and a half years? That just makes no sense."
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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #153 on: July 03, 2024, 12:40:39 AM »
Back down to 50ish...

And Kamala is up to 30+
It's now 50/50 Biden or Harris. Unbelievable how the dems will get away with this. Basically the deep state deciding who the nominee is instead of the people. This is the same party who is busy with a democracy all day all night.
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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #154 on: July 03, 2024, 12:46:10 AM »
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/392464
Biden on poor debate: I almost fell asleep on stage
US President blames foreign travel for his poor debate performance last week: I wasn’t very smart. I decided to travel around the world shortly before the debate.

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According to the report, the President was in Camp David for debate prep for a whole week before it, traveling there on June 20. He left Camp David on the morning of June 27 to travel to Atlanta for the debate.

He returned from a trip to Italy for the Group of Seven summit on June 14, six days before heading to Camp David. Before the trip to Italy, he traveled to France for the D-Day anniversary, which is on June 6.
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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #155 on: July 03, 2024, 12:47:23 AM »
It's now 50/50 Biden or Harris. Unbelievable how the dems will get away with this. Basically the deep state deciding who the nominee is instead of the people. This is the same party who is busy with a democracy all day all night.
The deep state made the first debate before the convention for this reason. Predictable.
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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #156 on: July 03, 2024, 12:54:54 AM »
The deep state made the first debate before the convention for this reason. Predictable.

But why did Biden, or his inside circle, go along with it? Are they delusional?

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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #157 on: July 03, 2024, 01:11:47 AM »
But why did Biden, or his inside circle, go along with it? Are they delusional?
They were told a bubbe maiseh about it helping to close the gap with Trump earlier on.
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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #158 on: July 03, 2024, 08:09:00 AM »
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/392464
Biden on poor debate: I almost fell asleep on stage
US President blames foreign travel for his poor debate performance last week: I wasn’t very smart. I decided to travel around the world shortly before the debate.
A president needs to be able to travel and also be at peek performance. It's almost as bad as a pilot giving this excuse. "Sorry I was sleepy because I traveled too much."

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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #159 on: July 03, 2024, 08:35:39 AM »
The deep state made the first debate before the convention for this reason. Predictable.

Hard to tell if you’re being sarcastic or not.