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Purpose/effect of defunding UNRWA
« on: October 01, 2024, 10:42:04 AM »
There is one thing that they do need and that is people. As many have said here over and over, the big question is how to change their attitudes and education.
Step 1, get rid of UNRWA.
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Re: Purpose/affect of defunding UNRWA
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2024, 11:02:37 AM »
Step 1, get rid of UNRWA.
Seriously? You really think that UNRWA makes it worse? They just collaborate with Hamas but definitely don’t incite terrorism.
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Re: Purpose/affect of defunding UNRWA
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2024, 11:09:15 AM »
Seriously? You really think that UNRWA makes it worse? They just collaborate with Hamas but definitely don’t incite terrorism.
Huh?

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Re: Purpose/affect of defunding UNRWA
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2024, 11:19:14 AM »
Huh?
The teachers in UNRWA are terrorists. The UN looks the other way from Hamas using their facilities. The fact of the organization doesn’t add terrorism though.
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Re: Purpose/affect of defunding UNRWA
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2024, 11:22:41 AM »
The teachers in UNRWA are terrorists. The UN looks the other way from Hamas using their facilities. The fact of the organization doesn’t add terrorism though.
Ok this needs it's own thread

I'm sure I don't need to point out to you the basics, that it's a refugee org created for a specific ppl, that they exist to perpetuate the crisis not end it, that today's terrorists were all educated in unrwa schools etc

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Re: Purpose/affect of defunding UNRWA
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2024, 11:23:58 AM »
The teachers in UNRWA are terrorists. The UN looks the other way from Hamas using their facilities. The fact of the organization doesn’t add terrorism though.
No, no, no.

It seems you are very misinformed. The whole mantra of UNRWA is to perpetuate the conflict. Even without that, the entire curriculum is based on hatred the likes that you cannot imagine being taught in a school.

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Re: Purpose/affect of defunding UNRWA
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2024, 11:24:49 AM »
Ok this needs it's own thread

I'm sure I don't need to point out to you the basics, that it's a refugee org created for a specific ppl, that they exist to perpetuate the crisis not end it, that today's terrorists were all educated in unrwa schools etc
I agree 100% (also on the thread). But to say that they’re the problem and the first thing to do is get rid of them is stupidity imo.
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Re: Purpose/affect of defunding UNRWA
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2024, 11:25:42 AM »
No, no, no.

It seems you are very misinformed. The whole mantra of UNRWA is to perpetuate the conflict. Even without that, the entire curriculum is based on hatred the likes that you cannot imagine being taught in a school.
So you’re basically saying that without them the Palestinian schools would’ve taught love to Israel?!
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Re: Purpose/affect of defunding UNRWA
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2024, 11:25:44 AM »
Ok this needs it's own thread

I'm sure I don't need to point out to you the basics, that it's a refugee org created for a specific ppl, that they exist to perpetuate the crisis not end it, that today's terrorists were all educated in unrwa schools etc

His point is that the organization itself is just a facilitator, not the root cause of the issue. If you get rid of them, there will still be schools, and they will still have teachers who teach hate.
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Re: Purpose/affect of defunding UNRWA
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2024, 11:36:48 AM »
I agree 100% (also on the thread). But to say that they’re the problem and the first thing to do is get rid of them is stupidity imo.
Why are you saying it's stupidity if it seems like you are not aware of even the basics of what goes on?

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Re: Purpose/affect of defunding UNRWA
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2024, 11:42:00 AM »
Why are you saying it's stupidity if it seems like you are not aware of even the basics of what goes on?
His point is that the organization itself is just a facilitator, not the root cause of the issue. If you get rid of them, there will still be schools, and they will still have teachers who teach hate.
So you’re basically saying that without them the Palestinian schools would’ve taught love to Israel?!
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Re: Purpose/affect of defunding UNRWA
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2024, 11:44:35 AM »

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Re: Purpose/affect of defunding UNRWA
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2024, 11:57:18 AM »
I said step 1.

You're saying deal with some of the symptoms and then go after the root cause. He's saying going after symptoms doesn't help because the cause will just recreate the symptoms.
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Re: Purpose/affect of defunding UNRWA
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2024, 12:03:24 PM »
You're saying deal with some of the symptoms and then go after the root cause. He's saying going after symptoms doesn't help because the cause will just recreate the symptoms.
No. UNRWA is much more than the symptom. You are clearly not understanding.

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Re: Purpose/affect of defunding UNRWA
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2024, 12:17:58 PM »
No. UNRWA is much more than the symptom. You are clearly not understanding.

Ok, so that's where the disagreement is. Why is UNRWA more than a symptom? They use local resources. They are a vehicle for funneling funds and they get to use the UN for cover. In case you haven't noticed, Hamas doesn't have a problem funneling funds all by themselves, and they don't really care what the UN has to say. You can dismantle UNRWA and cause a minor distruption, but within weeks or a few months it will be business as usual in Gaza.
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Re: Purpose/affect of defunding UNRWA
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2024, 12:31:20 PM »
Ok, so that's where the disagreement is. Why is UNRWA more than a symptom? They use local resources. They are a vehicle for funneling funds and they get to use the UN for cover. In case you haven't noticed, Hamas doesn't have a problem funneling funds all by themselves, and they don't really care what the UN has to say. You can dismantle UNRWA and cause a minor distruption, but within weeks or a few months it will be business as usual in Gaza.
it’s not just some funds. It’s Hundreds of millions of dollars per year. That can’t just be replaced.


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Re: Purpose/affect of defunding UNRWA
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2024, 12:49:51 PM »
it’s not just some funds. It’s Hundreds of millions of dollars per year. That can’t just be replaced.

The money doesn't go away. It just needs to be funneled a different way. There are enough fake Pali charities to get it rerouted. It's just a matter of time to make the logistics work.
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Re: Purpose/affect of defunding UNRWA
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2024, 12:50:53 PM »
it’s not just some funds. It’s Hundreds of millions of dollars per year. That can’t just be replaced.


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Re: Purpose/affect of defunding UNRWA
« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2024, 01:00:10 PM »
The money doesn't go away. It just needs to be funneled a different way. There are enough fake Pali charities to get it rerouted. It's just a matter of time to make the logistics work.
then that needs to change as well. All big donations must be vetted.

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Re: Purpose/affect of defunding UNRWA
« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2024, 01:08:27 PM »
then that needs to change as well. All big donations must be vetted.

IOW, dismantling UNRWA isn't going to solve the problem. You have to go after the source of the money, and/or shut down all avenues they use to get it into Gaza. UNRWA is just one pawn.
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