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The politicization of Wikipedia
« on: November 04, 2024, 12:27:21 AM »
Didn’t find a topic for this, but it’s a real issue, it’s getting worse, and I’m not sure how aware people are.

https://x.com/mohadisrael/status/1853115192516993371
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Re: The politicization of Wikipedia
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2024, 12:56:18 AM »
Not sure if it's nogeia to this, not sure if links will work http://netfree.link/wiki/Hebrew_Wikipedia_in_NetFree https://www.hamichlol.org.il/%D7%A2%D7%9E%D7%95%D7%93_%D7%A8%D7%90%D7%A9%D7%99 http://netfree.link/wiki/Sites_open_in_NetFree_In_a_limited_way Here is a paste of 1st URL שימו לב! התוכן בדף זה נכתב באופן שיתופי ע"י משתמשי נטפרי לצפיה במקור לחץ כאן
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Home page > Sites open in NetFree In a limited way > Hebrew Wikipedia in NetFree ‎‎



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❕ Wikipedia is a very useful website, however it incorporates false opinions and heresies that are inappropriate for Judaism, including articles that are intentionally twisted



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Hebrew Wikipedia
A worthy alternative to Hebrew Wikipedia for the Charedi user is the Hamichlol website, whose team of founders and editors takes care of importing the clean articles from Wikipedia and filters the problematic articles and content in Wikipedia.

In light of this, a user of the Internet filtered by NetFree who tries to enter any article in Wikipedia will be automatically redirected to the same article on the Hamichlol site, if this article already exists in Hamichlol. An entry that does not exist in Hamichlol opens in Wikipedia with Image filtering and Text filtering with a warning at the top of each page stating that Wikipedia contains articles that are intentionally falsified. (Except for specific pages that were manually blocked, after being checked and found to contain inappropriate content that was not blocked by the robot).

If the Wikipedia site is blocked by Community Supervision or Personal filter settings, pages that do not exist in Hamichlol will be blocked. You can ask the editors of Hamichlol to import the requested page into Hamichlol, at [https://www.hamichlol.org.il/המכלול:בקשת_ערך the designated page (for editors signed in to Hamichlol only).

English Wikipedia
The English (and Spanish) Wikipedia is open with Image filtering and Text filtering with a warning at the top of each page stating that Wikipedia contains articles that are intentionally falsified. (Except for specific pages that were manually blocked, after being checked and found to contain inappropriate content that was not blocked by the robot).



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 please note that due to the very big problems that wikipedia could bring, it is only availble to users of the "most open plan", but in any other plan it is completley blocked

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The site is full of false and misleading information, and it contains a lot of information which is not appropriate for Chareidi Jews. Many entries relating to Judaism, religion and our holy Torah, are deliberately and falsely misrepresented there. It is infeasible to filter out this content, and no robot can detect and block these texts, so the intention is to eventually to block the site entirely. However, since the site is consumed by many, and useful, it has been decided to do it gradually, at this stage there is an auto redirect to 'Hamichlol' when attempting to view an entry that already exists in Hamichlol. Entries that do not yet exist in Hamichlol currently open in Wikipedia. ["Hamichlol" is an attempt to create an acceptable and Torah true alternative to Wikipedia. It is currently only available in Hebrew. Wikipedia in all other languages remains open and not redirected.]
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Re: The politicization of Wikipedia
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2024, 09:16:26 AM »
I was somewhat active on the editing scene of Wikipedia about 15 years ago. My impression was that they had always been biased, but they made a concerted effort to keep the bias out of the text. However, what has been going on after I dropped off that map is sickening and alarming - especially because it managed to gain people's trust in the early years.
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Re: The politicization of Wikipedia
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2024, 01:07:35 PM »
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Re: The politicization of Wikipedia
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2024, 07:24:47 PM »
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Re: The politicization of Wikipedia
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2024, 07:39:21 PM »

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Re: The politicization of Wikipedia
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2024, 05:49:19 PM »
It comes down to numbers.

Whichever side has more editors on Wiki gets their way.

Take this paragraph for example. Tried changing it multiple times, but always lost...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualty_ratio#Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict:~:text=2023%20Israel%E2%80%93Hamas%20war%5B,6%20August.%5B85%5D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_coverage_of_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war

If you look at the Arabic version of a lot of these pages, it's literally insane what they write

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Re: The politicization of Wikipedia
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2024, 08:57:27 PM »
We have been unburdened by what has been.

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Re: The politicization of Wikipedia
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2025, 10:20:12 AM »
Don't go to Wikipedia for political stuff. Is there a better option then the way it's ran now?
Overall it's still a good website imo

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Re: The politicization of Wikipedia
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2025, 10:38:15 AM »
Don't go to Wikipedia for political stuff. Is there a better option then the way it's ran now?
Overall it's still a good website imo
I think the point being made is that it used to be citing Wikipedia was a credible as you could go for anything outside of dictionary definitions, and that it's no longer the case, and it's not just for political information
We have been unburdened by what has been.

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Re: The politicization of Wikipedia
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2025, 12:08:55 PM »
Don't go to Wikipedia for political stuff. Is there a better option then the way it's ran now?
Overall it's still a good website imo
No-go for politics, religion, or modern medicine.

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Re: The politicization of Wikipedia
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2025, 09:17:22 PM »
Some of what he mentions may be a bit picky, but most is not.
https://youtu.be/LnceHuVnXWg?

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Re: The politicization of Wikipedia
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2025, 01:23:57 AM »
Say what?
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Re: The politicization of Wikipedia
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2025, 01:30:38 AM »
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Re: The politicization of Wikipedia
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2025, 04:50:56 AM »
Thxnk Yxx!  8)

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Re: The politicization of Wikipedia
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2025, 05:10:20 AM »
Thxnk Yxx!  8)
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