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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #1005 on: March 08, 2015, 08:37:32 PM »
Once we're talking grammar and spelling I'll point out that the 2 big yechi signs in 770 are spelled differently.
In case you need one more reason to tear them down. ::)

How are they spelled differently?

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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #1006 on: March 08, 2015, 09:34:42 PM »
In case you need one more reason to tear them down. ::)

Can't say I didn't try... ;)

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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #1007 on: March 08, 2015, 11:02:11 PM »

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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #1008 on: March 08, 2015, 11:09:01 PM »
The one with the yud went up first

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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #1009 on: March 09, 2015, 12:19:01 AM »
Nu anyone know dikduk?
What's the difference?

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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #1010 on: March 09, 2015, 12:22:40 AM »
Don't know but I would guess that if the pronunciation is on the preceding letter, it should be followed by a yud.
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #1011 on: March 09, 2015, 12:28:08 AM »
I am pretty sure the yud makes it לשון רבים so it would be "our masters, our teachers, and rebbes" all plural.
I am not sure why they would leave the yud in רבינו but take it out of the other two.
A quick search on Google found that some leave it out of רבנו and some keep it in.

I think moshiach will have to come though for us to understand dikduk.

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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #1012 on: March 09, 2015, 12:31:52 AM »
I am pretty sure the yud makes it לשון רבים so it would be "our masters, our teachers, and rebbes" all plural.

That would be raboseinu, dude. You're talking out of your pipik.

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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #1013 on: March 09, 2015, 12:34:43 AM »
You're right.  I am no dikduk expert but let's leave my pipik out of this.
Are you maskim on the other two that I am right?

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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #1014 on: March 09, 2015, 12:40:01 AM »
That would be raboseinu, dude. You're talking out of your pipik.
He knows his stuff, he's just using the same technique as the the sungames troll with duplicate accounts

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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #1015 on: March 09, 2015, 12:45:23 AM »
You're right.  I am no dikduk expert but let's leave my pipik out of this.
Are you maskim on the other two that I am right?
No, I am not maskim. It makes no sense.
Adoneinu is our master whether the yud is maleh or chaser. Adonoseinu would be plural, although I have NEVER heard or seen that word used.

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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #1016 on: March 09, 2015, 12:58:30 AM »
I don't think you're right but I will have to look into it.  Now I am curious.
Dikduk is probably one of the worst ways ever to take a thread off topic but ....

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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #1017 on: March 09, 2015, 01:18:46 AM »
In short the correct grammar is without the yud's (I don't why exactly)

And this cloth sign can't be replaced because of some court ruling/din Torah/agreement (Idk which) so the decision was to keep up this sign with incorrect spelling over not having it at all.

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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #1018 on: March 09, 2015, 08:26:21 AM »
I am pretty sure the yud makes it לשון רבים so it would be "our masters, our teachers, and rebbes" all plural.
I am not sure why they would leave the yud in רבינו but take it out of the other two.
A quick search on Google found that some leave it out of רבנו and some keep it in.

I think moshiach will have to come though for us to understand dikduk.
You're right. A yud makes it rabim. And by adonaynu and morainu its wrong. Rabeinu is a diff story, cuz the word ITSELF is rebbe not rav. So that is why there is a yud. Vedal

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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #1019 on: March 09, 2015, 09:49:08 AM »
You're right. A yud makes it rabim. And by adonaynu and morainu its wrong. Rabeinu is a diff story, cuz the word ITSELF is rebbe not rav. So that is why there is a yud. Vedal
That makes no sense. If the word is rebbe, then it's also adoni and mori. The shorashim are adon, mar, and rav.

ETA: Just noticed the vedal, so just in case that indicates the whole thing was in jest and referring to 'The Rebbe' so to speak, well played. Otherwise, ignore this part  ;D