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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #1065 on: June 30, 2016, 03:40:31 PM »
only in areas or neighborhoods. It is not like you can carry from 1 place all the way to the other end of lakewood.
So what you can carry half way across Lakewood?

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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #1066 on: June 30, 2016, 03:52:40 PM »
only in areas or neighborhoods. It is not like you can carry from 1 place all the way to the other end of lakewood.
In many areas you can..
Anyway, if there shouldn't be an eiruv, there shoudnt be a Hodge podge eiruv either.

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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #1067 on: June 30, 2016, 03:58:49 PM »
In many areas you can..
Anyway, if there shouldn't be an eiruv, there shoudnt be a Hodge podge eiruv either.
When I first heard about this I thought it was funny. Then members were sending me links and I thought they were messing with me. Then I realized they were serious. I am still in a state of shock.
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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #1068 on: June 30, 2016, 04:07:47 PM »
When I first heard about this I thought it was funny. Then members were sending me links and I thought they were messing with me. Then I realized they were serious. I am still in a state of shock.
The eruv (a rabbinic enactment) only works in places that carrying is only prohibited by rabbinic  enactment. The two laws were made by the same source. The purpose of the rabbinic prohibition to carry is to keep people cognizant of the biblical prohibition to carry in a biblical public thoroughfare. By requiring people to have an eruv to carry there, it would keep awareness up of the prohibition to carry.

(The prohibition wasn't first created, and then the eruv as a workaround. The enactment was a prohibition to carry in places lacking an eruv. The purpose was to distance people from carrying in a place which is biblically prohibited, which an eruv does not help for.)
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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #1069 on: June 30, 2016, 04:09:53 PM »
So, is R' Weissmandl a meshichist  ;D ;)
He clearly wrote "אדמו״ר מליובאוויטש נ״ע" so that pretty much settles the question - or just makes him a typical Lubavitcher ;)
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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #1070 on: June 30, 2016, 04:14:28 PM »
He clearly wrote "אדמו״ר מליובאוויטש נ״ע" so that pretty much settles the question - or just makes him a typical Lubavitcher ;)
נע means נשמתו עדן
His נשמה is in gan Eden.

Is there something messianic about that??

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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #1071 on: June 30, 2016, 04:22:58 PM »
נע means נשמתו עדן
His נשמה is in gan Eden.

Is there something messianic about that??

nun aleph typically stands for "nezer alaiv"

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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #1072 on: June 30, 2016, 04:26:49 PM »
nun aleph typically stands for "nezer alaiv"
So what

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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #1073 on: June 30, 2016, 04:29:40 PM »
So what

So what crown are we talking about?

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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #1074 on: June 30, 2016, 04:30:35 PM »
נע means נשמתו עדן
His נשמה is in gan Eden.

Is there something messianic about that??
Um... That was my point.
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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #1075 on: June 30, 2016, 04:31:39 PM »
So what crown are we talking about?
Dunno. It says nun alef? Must of missed it.

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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #1076 on: June 30, 2016, 06:08:58 PM »
Alav is with an ayin. עליו.

Let's say it means כתר  של תורה  or even כתר של מלכות. Does that title leave when someone is niftar?

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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #1077 on: June 30, 2016, 07:14:31 PM »
Alav is with an ayin. עליו.

Let's say it means כתר  של תורה  or even כתר של מלכות. Does that title leave when someone is niftar?
Never ever heard of this title, or of this acronym used in any other context besides for nishmaso Eden.

So it's probably a meshichist invention/conspiracy.

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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #1078 on: June 30, 2016, 07:47:56 PM »
It's definitely nishmaso eden and my post was in jest due to the zaro b'chaim line as explained upthread.
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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #1079 on: June 30, 2016, 08:23:43 PM »
It's definitely nishmaso eden and my post was in jest due to the zaro b'chaim line as explained upthread.

And what? I just made up the crown thing?