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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #555 on: January 15, 2013, 10:33:40 PM »
Quote from: Ergel on January 15, 2013, 10:32:10 PM
Don't want to get involved but I can tell you that a child of a shliach in a place where many on the forums have been told my wife that he sees the rebbe. You (non believers) can't see him but we can see him
Let me guess, Venice?
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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #556 on: January 15, 2013, 10:35:44 PM »
Ding ding ding
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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #557 on: January 15, 2013, 10:37:09 PM »
Quote from: Dan on January 15, 2013, 10:33:40 PM
Let me guess, Venice?
Lemme guess, where is this? Do you see him or is it just me ?
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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #558 on: January 15, 2013, 10:37:55 PM »
Quote from: Ergel on January 15, 2013, 10:35:44 PM
Ding ding ding
Not really shocking, it's no secret he's a great guy, but a wacko nonetheless.
Seems to run among Israelis in particular.  Maybe it's in the water?
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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #559 on: January 15, 2013, 10:39:26 PM »
Quote from: Dan on January 15, 2013, 10:37:55 PM
Not really shocking, it's no secret he's a great guy, but a wacko nonetheless.
Seems to run among Israelis in particular.  Maybe it's in the water?
hes the rav hamachshir there, I know many missnagdim that eat there, go figure
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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #560 on: January 15, 2013, 10:43:48 PM »
Quote from: churnbabychurn on January 15, 2013, 10:39:26 PM
hes the rav hamachshir there, I know many missnagdim that eat there, go figure
I fail to see how being even from the extreme mishichist camp would affect your kashrus.  Deluded, yes.  But it ain't kfira al pi halacha.
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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #561 on: January 15, 2013, 10:48:34 PM »
Quote from: Dan on January 15, 2013, 10:43:48 PM
I fail to see how being even from the extreme mishichist camp would affect your kashrus.  Deluded, yes.  But it ain't kfira al pi halacha.
Maybe not, but trustworthy? Would you invest 20k with the guy
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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #562 on: January 15, 2013, 10:50:10 PM »
Quote from: churnbabychurn on January 15, 2013, 10:48:34 PM
Maybe not, but trustworthy? Would you invest 20k with the guy
For the right investment? Being a mishichist wouldn't stop me.  Often they're better jews than I am, they're just misguided IMHO.
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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #563 on: January 15, 2013, 10:56:06 PM »
Quote from: Dan on January 15, 2013, 10:50:10 PM
For the right investment? Being a mishichist wouldn't stop me.  Often they're better jews than I am, they're just misguided IMHO.
Dan you invest with goyim? You know they don't believe the same things you do are you crazy??? How can you trust someone who doesn't share your beliefs?
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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #564 on: January 15, 2013, 10:56:19 PM »
Quote from: Dan on January 15, 2013, 10:50:10 PM
For the right investment? Being a mishichist wouldn't stop me.  Often they're better jews than I am, they're just misguided IMHO.
I guess im biased, I see a touch of evil in the whole thing. Its just so foreign to everything I believe. the whole thing is weird to me, who led them astray, why, so many questions....
At least you try to be rational.
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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #565 on: January 15, 2013, 10:57:12 PM »
Quote from: churnbabychurn on January 15, 2013, 10:56:19 PM
I guess im biased, I see a touch of evil in the whole thing. Its just so foreign to everything I believe. the whole thing is weird to me, who led them astray, why, so many questions....
At least you try to be rational.
Did you read this entire thread?
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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #566 on: January 15, 2013, 10:57:49 PM »
Quote from: jj1000 on January 15, 2013, 10:56:06 PM
Dan you invest with goyim? You know they don't believe the same things you do are you crazy??? How can you trust someone who doesn't share your beliefs?
I meant trust the guy with 20k, would you?
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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #567 on: January 15, 2013, 10:59:00 PM »
Quote from: churnbabychurn on January 15, 2013, 10:57:49 PM
I meant trust the guy with 20k, would you?
Why the heck not? That's my point? What do beliefs have to do with trust?
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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #568 on: January 15, 2013, 11:00:23 PM »
Quote from: Dan on January 15, 2013, 10:43:48 PM
I fail to see how being even from the extreme mishichist camp would affect your kashrus.  Deluded, yes.  But it ain't kfira al pi halacha.
Depends how far you go with it
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Re: Messianism among Lubavitch
« Reply #569 on: January 15, 2013, 11:06:27 PM »
Quote from: jj1000 on January 15, 2013, 10:57:12 PM
Did you read this entire thread?
I have, some guys do try to present a sane sounding point of view but its impossible to sway me. I have what I firmly believe to be the absolute truth.
 I still very firmly against chabad hashkafa. If rational people weren't so emotionally invested in chadad... im sure they deep down also doubt the whole entire thing...
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