Author Topic: שמיני עצרת תשפ"ד - October 7 inquiries, findings, faults and resignations  (Read 5015 times)

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IINM the only resignation so far (after delays, without fully accepting responsibility, and given a "retirement party") was Haliwa - the IDF chief of intelligence who was vacationing in Eilat at the time.

I think at this point with evidence and inquiries starting to come up with information about the lead-up to the failure to protect from the שמיני עצרת massacre, we should keep this kind of information separate from the Iran proxy war thread.

The following is part 2 (subsequent nights) of revelations published on Israeli channel 11. Recordings of an IDF examiner or liaison discussing the interim findings with Israeli police. The IDF officer unequivocally states that the Nova festival did come up in discussions the night before, yet they didn't give an order to shut it down, or inform police of the warning signs.

The police officer is shocked to find out and says that if only the police had been notified earlier (the decision by police to shut down the party came as a police commander saw rockets being fired from Gaza, not knowing anything about the border fence breaches) everyone at the party could have been saved.

https://x.com/c_shlomit/status/1864011091820364100
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Another chapter. Apparently the terrorists that attacked the Nova party crossed over during a second wave, about an hour after the initial attack on Be'eri. They had maps showing Netivot as their target, but took a wrong turn and stumbled on the party.

https://x.com/c_shlomit/status/1865457995875828004
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https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/400372
If true... Bibi needs to go full scorched earth against the Deep State.
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The transcript of 6:40 am call to Netanyahu shows that he was kept in total darkness up to that moment with any intelligence that was known. He immediately ordered elimination of any leaders that could be found and eliminated, from Sinwar and down.

https://x.com/YOSSIBAUM/status/1867343244469645703
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No wonder that they revoked his clearance... probsly because he says everything publicly.

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https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/403853
Senior Police Officer: Report of the massacre was blocked at 0330 in the morning

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Weiss criticized the military and intelligence investigations for failing to consult those present during the events, focusing instead on protecting high-ranking officials from accountability.

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How is it possible that Ronen Bar still has a job, forget about influence on the hostage negotiations?

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How is it possible that Ronen Bar still has a job, forget about influence on the hostage negotiations?

He’s also overdue on the October 7th investigation reports he was supposed to deliver.
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I think this needs to go in this thread
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/404218
Communications Min.: Justice Minister promised A-G would be fired within weeks

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https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/404210
Netanyhu preparing to fire Bar

Ronen Bar, not to be confused with IAF Chief Tomer Bar (I don’t think they’re related)

We’ll see if it happens, apparently Ronen Bar already appointed a bunch of deputies that will head various ISA divisions:
https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/h19g28kbjx
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I think this needs to go in this thread
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/404218
Communications Min.: Justice Minister promised A-G would be fired within weeks

This too remains to be seen. Calls to fire her have been ongoing since forever, but Justice Minister Levin hasn’t moved forward with it for whatever reason. Her replacement might not be any better considering how these things go.
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https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/404591

Shin Bet director of operations resigns.
Will be reassigned within the service

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#8 here is a red flag. Hamas had published detailed plans on how to conquer the Nahal Oz base, what the weaknesses were and how to exploit them. Very disturbing.

https://x.com/yoavzitun/status/1896596958661456328?s=46
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https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/404868
Report on shin bet failures

So after the greatest failure in the history of the org... the leaders takeaway is this
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/404842
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he would not leave the agency before the creation of a state inquiry commission and also indicated successors. "The moment I see that it's happening, I would like to pass the baton to one of my two amazing deputies."

Bar pledged to use all his power to prevent the appointment of a director from outside the agency