Author Topic: שמיני עצרת תשפ"ד - October 7 inquiries, findings, faults and resignations (Read 5016 times)

AsherO · « **Reply #20 on:** March 04, 2025, 04:02:31 PM »

Quote from: yfr bachur on March 04, 2025, 02:43:48 PM

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/404868
Report on shin bet failures

So after the greatest failure in the history of the org... the leaders takeaway is this
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/404842

Disgraceful.

yfr bachur · « **Reply #21 on:** March 06, 2025, 03:51:07 PM »

More on bar and his cronies
https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/israel-news/2372778/former-shin-bet-official-its-no-secret-that-ronen-bar-is-surrounded-by-leftists.html

(Sorry @Dan for the ywn link

, it's quoting Micha Koby, a former senior official in the Shin Bet, who was a guest on Wednesday evening on the popular ‘The Patriots’ show hosted by Yinon Magal)

ExGingi · « **Reply #22 on:** March 07, 2025, 09:25:50 AM »

Good summary by Moshik Kovarsky:

https://x.com/mk1956/status/1897998483954581538

ExGingi · « **Reply #23 on:** March 08, 2025, 09:10:17 PM »

Lengthy Hebrew article with details which have not officially made been made public.

https://archive.is/uM0wE

ExGingi · « **Reply #24 on:** March 08, 2025, 11:43:07 PM »

yfr bachur · « **Reply #25 on:** March 09, 2025, 08:12:37 AM »

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/405081
The only idf unit that didn't have to give a din vcheshbon.... the unit responsible for Gaza policy and supplies etc

ExGingi · « **Reply #26 on:** April 21, 2025, 01:22:08 PM »

This video could go in so many different Israel/Deep-state threads, but I'll post it here because he focuses on lies disseminated regarding the war.

The uniqueness of this video is that while Avi Weiss, who is an excellent independent investigative reporter, is usually only interviewed on right wing outlets. Alex Tseitlin's podcast isn't considered politically tilted, and mostly focuses on interviewing various scholars bringing knowledge to the masses (a lot of it historical, archeological, etc.).

yfr bachur · « **Reply #27 on:** April 28, 2025, 02:44:35 PM »

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/flashes/656252
Ronen Bar to go June 15.

Dan · « **Reply #28 on:** April 28, 2025, 09:19:44 PM »

Talk about spin...
https://13tv.co.il/item/news/hamakor/season-24/episodes/csqug-904557783/

ExGingi · « **Reply #29 on:** April 28, 2025, 10:47:54 PM »

Quote from: Dan on April 28, 2025, 09:19:44 PM

Talk about spin...
https://13tv.co.il/item/news/hamakor/season-24/episodes/csqug-904557783/

Welcome to the corrupt Israeli MSM who's in bed with the Judicial Deep State doing anything in their power to subvert Israeli Democracy. They had eager partners in the Obiden Administrations, all heavily funded by Soros & Co.

https://x.com/nt45316003/status/1857757782344085828

AsherO · « **Reply #30 on:** May 13, 2025, 01:59:23 PM »

https://x.com/intellitimes/status/1922349078534394124?s=46

aygart · « **Reply #31 on:** May 13, 2025, 04:12:33 PM »

Quote from: AsherO on May 13, 2025, 01:59:23 PM

https://x.com/intellitimes/status/1922349078534394124?s=46

yfr bachur · « **Reply #32 on:** May 13, 2025, 04:43:48 PM »

Quote from: aygart on May 13, 2025, 04:12:33 PM

This was an Israeli agent or a palestinian?

aygart · « **Reply #33 on:** May 13, 2025, 04:44:55 PM »

Quote from: yfr bachur on May 13, 2025, 04:43:48 PM

This was an Israeli agent or a palestinian?

I assume a palestinian.

ExGingi · « **Reply #34 on:** May 13, 2025, 08:01:46 PM »

Quote from: aygart on May 13, 2025, 04:12:33 PM

I'll take the story with a huge grain of salt.

Savingsbeast · « **Reply #35 on:** May 13, 2025, 08:11:23 PM »

Care to explain why you doubt this? Seems plausible to me.

ExGingi · « **Reply #36 on:** May 13, 2025, 08:12:41 PM »

Quote from: Savingsbeast on May 13, 2025, 08:11:23 PM

Care to explain why you doubt this? Seems plausible to me.

The sources.

I'll wait to hear weather Avi Weiss says anything about this.

Chuchum Ainer · « **Reply #37 on:** May 13, 2025, 08:19:04 PM »

Quote from: Savingsbeast on May 13, 2025, 08:11:23 PM

Care to explain why you doubt this? Seems plausible to me.

Bernie News Network, a whatsapp channel that's now on Twitter. Best sourcing ever

Referring to a gazan informant as a Shin Bet Agent throws everything else un the post into doubt

What does Israel's high court have to do with identifying cases of double agents?

There's a truthful grain somewhere I suppose, but maybe post the original channel 12 report and we can discuss it.

ExGingi · « **Reply #38 on:** May 13, 2025, 08:28:34 PM »

Quote from: Chuchum Ainer on May 13, 2025, 08:19:04 PM

Bernie News Network, a whatsapp channel that's now on Twitter. Best sourcing ever

Referring to a gazan informant as a Shin Bet Agent throws everything else un the post into doubt

What does Israel's high court have to do with identifying cases of double agents?

There's a truthful grain somewhere I suppose, but maybe post the original channel 12 report and we can discuss it.

I just watched and read the Channel 12 report.

They start off the story with Hamas people bragging about infiltration.

They then say an operative who was working as a Shin Bet informant was captured during the war in Gaza who during interrogation said that he misled his operators by stating on the night between October 6th and 7th that there are no plans for an attack and that if there were such plans he would definitely know about them. They then proceed to speculate that this "probably" caused the Shin Bet not to follow other intelligence leads/signs.

ExGingi · « **Reply #39 on:** May 13, 2025, 08:40:20 PM »

Quote from: Chuchum Ainer on May 13, 2025, 08:19:04 PM

There's a truthful grain somewhere I suppose, but maybe post the original channel 12 report and we can discuss it.

There are plenty of grains of truth there. Channel 12 does exist. It published a story. Shin and Beis are letters in the Hebrew Alphabet. Isn't that sufficient proof?