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Re: Re: "I was a Hasidic Jew - but I broke free"
« Reply #100 on: February 16, 2012, 03:21:34 PM »
why bashmutz people no one knows?
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Re: "I was a Hasidic Jew - but I broke free"
« Reply #101 on: February 16, 2012, 06:00:48 PM »
She answered:
What bothers me most about the Chabad community is the messianic aspect, obviously.
Not quite sure why that would bother someone who claims that "Instead of boxing myself in with a label, I consider myself Jewish by identity, and embrace the diversity of the Jewish community in all its forms".

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Re: "I was a Hasidic Jew - but I broke free"
« Reply #102 on: February 16, 2012, 07:02:11 PM »
Someone on her Blog asked her:

Have you seen or care to see Oprah's interview she gave with Chabad regarding Judaism and our culture?

She answered:

I’ve seen some clips. I’m glad she came in to the community with an open mind. However I have no affiliation with Chabad, as they have a notorious long-standing feud with the Satmar community. I do know that their customs are very different and they have a less repressive attitude toward women.
 
What bothers me most about the Chabad community is the messianic aspect, obviously. But that seems to be a minority within the greater Lubavitch society.
If she claims to only know Satmar:
1. why did she totally breakaway from Judaism, why didn't she leave Satmer and that's all?
2. Why did she give her book a name UNORTHODOX if she doesn't know anything about the other sects of the orthodox judaism?
3. If she claims to be now free and happy vs. her older days when she was unsatisfied, why would she try to push her agenda, what's wrong if she knows that she is on good (bad!) track, and leave the public alone?

One answer to all of that:
She had a miserable life, she thought to find the happiness in the secular world, which she didn't, therefore she's at least trying to convince so for the public (and herself), and gain some attention.
There is no way a women with a child, that has no family, no childhood friends, "nobody that is interested in living with her, since she has a child" (her own words), could be happy, and not reconsider the act she has done.
That's all of it!
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Re: "I was a Hasidic Jew - but I broke free"
« Reply #103 on: February 16, 2012, 07:05:40 PM »
If she claims to only know Satmar:
1. why did she totally breakaway from Judaism, why didn't she leave Satmer and that's all?
2. Why did she give her book a name UNORTHODOX if she doesn't know anything about the other sects of the orthodox judaism?
3. If she claims to be now free and happy vs. her older days when she was unsatisfied, why would she try to push her agenda, what's wrong if she knows that she is on good (bad!) track, and leave the public alone?

One answer to all of that:
She had a miserable life, she thought to find the happiness in the secular world, which she didn't, therefore she's at least trying to convince so for the public (and herself), and gain some attention.
There is no way a women with a child, that has no family, no childhood friends, "nobody that is interested in living with her, since she has a child" (her own words), could be happy, and not reconsider the act she has done.
That's all of it!


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Let's pray that her eyes will open, and return one day.

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Re: "I was a Hasidic Jew - but I broke free"
« Reply #104 on: February 16, 2012, 07:09:20 PM »
Untrue Claim in her book that a father killed his son......

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Re: "I was a Hasidic Jew - but I broke free"
« Reply #105 on: February 16, 2012, 07:09:58 PM »
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Let's pray that her eyes will open, and return one day.
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Re: "I was a Hasidic Jew - but I broke free"
« Reply #106 on: February 16, 2012, 07:14:44 PM »
Untrue Claim in her book that a father killed his son......

wow, that's nasty.

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Re: Re: "I was a Hasidic Jew - but I broke free"
« Reply #107 on: February 16, 2012, 07:17:07 PM »
If she claims to only know Satmar:
1. why did she totally breakaway from Judaism, why didn't she leave Satmer and that's all?
2. Why did she give her book a name UNORTHODOX if she doesn't know anything about the other sects of the orthodox judaism?
3. If she claims to be now free and happy vs. her older days when she was unsatisfied, why would she try to push her agenda, what's wrong if she knows that she is on good (bad!) track, and leave the public alone?

One answer to all of that:
She had a miserable life, she thought to find the happiness in the secular world, which she didn't, therefore she's at least trying to convince so for the public (and herself), and gain some attention.
There is no way a women with a child, that has no family, no childhood friends, "nobody that is interested in living with her, since she has a child" (her own words), could be happy, and not reconsider the act she has done.
That's all of it!

I think were all thinking too deep into things. Too black and white. She probably left Judaism because those are the people she met on the 'outside' or because it was too hard to even be religious at all at the moment. Its very hard to be frum when you're unhappy. Also, she's still young. All of this happened relatively recently. I wouldn't be too surprised if she did become religious again one day. As for the title of her book, for the people she wrote it for Unorthodox is a great name. If she were writing it for religious people she would have made it more defined in terms of sect etc.

I hope she can find her path that leads her to be her best/ most honest version of herself and let her relationship with Gd grow.




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Re: "I was a Hasidic Jew - but I broke free"
« Reply #108 on: February 16, 2012, 07:17:44 PM »
on her facebook she says she's writing a book about Hasidic Crime.
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Re: Re: "I was a Hasidic Jew - but I broke free"
« Reply #109 on: February 16, 2012, 07:18:10 PM »
Her next book will be titled An Unorthodox return to my orthodox roots B'ezaras Hashem

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Re: Re: "I was a Hasidic Jew - but I broke free"
« Reply #110 on: February 16, 2012, 07:21:59 PM »
on her facebook she says she's writing a book about Hasidic Crime.

I hope all the attention on her dies down soon. There's lots to write about unfortunately and we don't need the whole world focused on all the bad right now.

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Re: "I was a Hasidic Jew - but I broke free"
« Reply #111 on: February 17, 2012, 11:30:02 AM »
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Re: "I was a Hasidic Jew - but I broke free"
« Reply #112 on: February 17, 2012, 11:38:23 AM »
The truth is we dont want the world focusing on us too much, even if its not bad.  The whole Mikva thing is extremely private.  This is not something we need to see on the Tyra Banks Show or Oprah or anything.  Its for us and it should stay that way. 

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Re: "I was a Hasidic Jew - but I broke free"
« Reply #113 on: February 17, 2012, 12:30:38 PM »
The truth is we dont want the world focusing on us too much, even if its not bad.  The whole Mikva thing is extremely private.  This is not something we need to see on the Tyra Banks Show or Oprah or anything.  Its for us and it should stay that way.

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Re: "I was a Hasidic Jew - but I broke free"
« Reply #114 on: February 17, 2012, 12:38:30 PM »
The truth is we dont want the world focusing on us too much, even if its not bad.  The whole Mikva thing is extremely private.  This is not something we need to see on the Tyra Banks Show or Oprah or anything.  Its for us and it should stay that way.

Private as an individual, not as a community. We're not Buddhist monks. Maybe somebody will be inspired to start keeping Mikvah or at least to research it more. Only good can come from being open and honest IMHO.

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Re: "I was a Hasidic Jew - but I broke free"
« Reply #115 on: February 17, 2012, 02:05:49 PM »
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Re: "I was a Hasidic Jew - but I broke free"
« Reply #116 on: February 17, 2012, 02:30:55 PM »
The truth is we dont want the world focusing on us too much, even if its not bad.  The whole Mikva thing is extremely private.  This is not something we need to see on the Tyra Banks Show or Oprah or anything.  Its for us and it should stay that way.
Private as an individual, not as a community. We're not Buddhist monks. Maybe somebody will be inspired to start keeping Mikvah or at least to research it more. Only good can come from being open and honest IMHO.
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Re: "I was a Hasidic Jew - but I broke free"
« Reply #117 on: February 19, 2012, 11:35:42 AM »
The copycats are coming out very quickly  :-[

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Re: "I was a Hasidic Jew - but I broke free"
« Reply #118 on: February 19, 2012, 11:43:29 AM »
The copycats are coming out very quickly  :-[
So anyone that decides a Hasidic lifestyle is not for them is a copycat?
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Re: "I was a Hasidic Jew - but I broke free"
« Reply #119 on: February 19, 2012, 11:52:26 AM »
So anyone that decides a Hasidic lifestyle is not for them is a copycat?
No, but anyone that feels the need to go to the press is.  Next we'll see another "scandalous rejection" book I'm sure.
Should I go to the press that I sneezed today?

I do wonder why these communities put pressure on abused women not to report it though.
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