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Re: DDF'er Wins Huge CNN Defamation Trial!
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2025, 02:55:57 PM »
Is he going to have to leave before closing today?

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Re: DDF'er Wins Huge CNN Defamation Trial!
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2025, 02:58:39 PM »
Is he going to have to leave before closing today?
Judge asked about it. And they seemed to indicate they will do everything they can to let Velvel be there to finish closing.

I don't know what happens if they don't make it in time... I assume they push until Monday.
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Re: DDF'er Wins Huge CNN Defamation Trial!
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2025, 03:14:09 PM »

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Re: DDF'er Wins Huge CNN Defamation Trial!
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2025, 03:41:56 PM »
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Re: DDF'er Wins Huge CNN Defamation Trial!
« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2025, 04:11:51 PM »
Case settled.
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Re: DDF'er Wins Huge CNN Defamation Trial!
« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2025, 04:18:49 PM »
Wow. Will the amount be publicized?

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Re: DDF'er Wins Huge CNN Defamation Trial!
« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2025, 04:24:27 PM »
Wow. Will the amount be publicized?
Doubt it, but I'm sure it was generous, considering how the jury ruled so far.

Plaintiff had suggested $150M based on a 30 day revenue penalty. Sure hope they got at least $50M? But who knows...

This also avoids any appeal and means everyone gets paid now.
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Re: DDF'er Wins Huge CNN Defamation Trial!
« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2025, 04:32:35 PM »
But who knows...
Ummm, you probably do

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Re: DDF'er Wins Huge CNN Defamation Trial!
« Reply #28 on: January 17, 2025, 04:35:42 PM »
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Re: DDF'er Wins Huge CNN Defamation Trial!
« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2025, 07:54:11 PM »
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Re: DDF'er Wins Huge CNN Defamation Trial!
« Reply #31 on: January 18, 2025, 08:43:27 PM »
Wow. Will the amount be publicized?

In addition to the dollar amount, I'm curious if there were any other factors to the settlement (such as a proper apology, changes in policy, consequences for the reporters etc).

On a separate note, it seems that from a legal perspective the settlement basically cancels the jury's verdict. I am curious if that is true, and what the implications of that are.

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Re: DDF'er Wins Huge CNN Defamation Trial!
« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2025, 09:09:02 PM »
An important point to keep in mind -

CNN bet everything on being declared not liable. All of their witnesses said that they didn't see anything wrong with the story, that they would publish it again, and that they saw no need to apologize.

They even said that the half-apology they did run should not have been run and was only because the legal department told them to do it.

One of the jurors even asked CNN's corporate rep about "disingenuous apologies." (The jury is allowed to submit written questions to the witnesses during their testimony. Not sure if that is a Florida thing, or a civil case thing).

All of that is going to come back to bite them now, when the jury has to decide the punishment.
I hadn't considered a settlement in between phases (I did not fully understand how it would happen until closing), but it seems this was CNN's strategy, and I can't fault it: lean in all the way to being not liable, and if it doesn't work, settle before the full verdict.

But now you have numerous CNN personalities who testified under oath that what they did was perfectly fine, and a jury found them liable. Other news agencies should hound them if they still believe their practices are journalisticly sound or if they are going to reconsider some policies

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Re: DDF'er Wins Huge CNN Defamation Trial!
« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2025, 09:40:16 PM »
Hey, @MasterTheLsat, looking for a jury consultant? I don't have a law degree (or a high school diploma for that matter), so you may need to hire me on the black gray market

We’ll have to get your hourly rate for the next case. But I’m taking JJ first. He’s the one that busted Marquardt on the John Lovitz “theater” v “acting.” Clutch and quick support from the best BIL out there.

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Re: DDF'er Wins Huge CNN Defamation Trial!
« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2025, 09:42:45 PM »
Posting this so that anyone can watch the closing here. Truly a masterpiece.


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Re: DDF'er Wins Huge CNN Defamation Trial!
« Reply #35 on: January 18, 2025, 10:00:10 PM »
Posting this so that anyone can watch the closing here. Truly a masterpiece.


I do appreciate this. But a timestamp on an 11 hour video would be helpful. What's the estimated timestamp?

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Re: DDF'er Wins Huge CNN Defamation Trial!
« Reply #36 on: January 18, 2025, 10:01:49 PM »
about 2:38
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Re: DDF'er Wins Huge CNN Defamation Trial!
« Reply #37 on: January 18, 2025, 10:17:18 PM »
I do appreciate this. But a timestamp on an 11 hour video would be helpful. What's the estimated timestamp?
Starts at 2:38

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Re: DDF'er Wins Huge CNN Defamation Trial!
« Reply #38 on: January 18, 2025, 10:38:01 PM »
Other news agencies should hound them if they still believe their practices are journalisticly sound or if they are going to reconsider some policies
You mean other agencies that do the same thing?
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Re: DDF'er Wins Huge CNN Defamation Trial!
« Reply #39 on: January 18, 2025, 11:02:02 PM »
He’s the one that busted Marquardt on the John Lovitz “theater” v “acting.” Clutch and quick support from the best BIL out there.
discussed at the 3:45:30 mark in the above video