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Tevilas Keilim Master Thread
« on: January 27, 2025, 11:21:08 PM »
About time tevilas Keilim discussions are split from the kashrus thread.
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Re: Tevilas Keilim Master Thread
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2025, 12:21:00 AM »
Would that heter apply to a glass table as well?
Don’t need to regardless since it is mostly used בהפסק כלי not directly on it

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Re: Tevilas Keilim Master Thread
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2025, 08:40:10 AM »
Razor blade used to score sourdough needs to be toiveled?
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Re: Tevilas Keilim Master Thread
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2025, 08:42:48 AM »
Razor blade used to score sourdough needs to be toiveled?
Literally was in middle of googling to figure this out.
Look at Star-K website here: Cookie Cutter   No tevila (if used only with food that is not edible).[6]

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Re: Tevilas Keilim Master Thread
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2025, 08:48:16 AM »
Literally was in middle of googling to figure this out.
Look at Star-K website here: Cookie Cutter   No tevila (if used only with food that is not edible).[6]
I don't understand why it's not like a sakin shel shechita

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Re: Tevilas Keilim Master Thread
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2025, 09:09:21 AM »
Razor blade used to score sourdough needs to be toiveled?
Yes, without a bracha.

Literally was in middle of googling to figure this out.
Look at Star-K website here: Cookie Cutter   No tevila (if used only with food that is not edible).[6]
That’s talking about something that by design isn’t fit to be used for edible items. A razor blade is the same as a sakin shel shechita.

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Re: Tevilas Keilim Master Thread
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2025, 09:15:50 AM »
Yes, without a bracha.
That’s talking about something that by design isn’t fit to be used for edible items. A razor blade is the same as a sakin shel shechita.
Nobody here uses cookie cutters for bread?
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Re: Tevilas Keilim Master Thread
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2025, 09:20:44 AM »
Nobody here uses cookie cutters for bread?
No, but I can see it as a possible case use in addition to rice crispy treats, which makes R' Heineman's Tzu-Sthell to the Sha"ch very difficult to understand.
(If I'm not mistaken, this was R' @moko's Heoroh as well)
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Re: Tevilas Keilim Master Thread
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2025, 10:39:52 AM »
Yes, without a bracha.
That’s talking about something that by design isn’t fit to be used for edible items. A razor blade is the same as a sakin shel shechita.
even if bought to use once and thrown out?

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Re: Tevilas Keilim Master Thread
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2025, 12:04:04 PM »
even if bought to use once and thrown out?
Yes. Unless they are made for one time use.

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Re: Tevilas Keilim Master Thread
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2025, 12:05:31 PM »
even if bought to use once and thrown out?
R Moshe says anything that most people throw out never needs tevilah, even if you use it many times. I'm not sure the metzius here, I think there is a decent chance most people throw them out because they aren't very expensive.
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Re: Tevilas Keilim Master Thread
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2025, 12:23:53 PM »
No, but I can see it as a possible case use in addition to rice crispy treats, which makes R' Heineman's Tzu-Sthell to the Sha"ch very difficult to understand.
(If I'm not mistaken, this was R' @moko's Heoroh as well)
what about edible cookie dough? That's a big thing nowadays

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Re: Tevilas Keilim Master Thread
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2025, 12:25:10 PM »
R Moshe says anything that most people throw out never needs tevilah, even if you use it many times. I'm not sure the metzius here, I think there is a decent chance most people throw them out because they aren't very expensive.
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Re: Tevilas Keilim Master Thread
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2025, 12:25:25 PM »
what about edible cookie dough? That's a big thing nowadays
Who uses cookie cutters on that? I've only seen it eaten as balls/clumps.
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Re: Tevilas Keilim Master Thread
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2025, 01:51:39 PM »
Who uses cookie cutters on that? I've only seen it eaten as balls/clumps.
I have 2 clients doing it and at home

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Re: Tevilas Keilim Master Thread
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2025, 01:58:21 PM »
I have 2 clients doing it and at home
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Re: Tevilas Keilim Master Thread
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2025, 12:36:26 PM »
Yes, without a bracha.


That’s talking about something that by design isn’t fit to be used for edible items. A razor blade is the same as a sakin shel shechita.
I though like you until dw actually gave it to me to toivel. I cant see any other use for this at all. It is a paper thin razor that is bent on to a tool to sculpt shapes. Should be same as barzeilim of matzos. NOT like sakin shel shechita.




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Re: Tevilas Keilim Master Thread
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2025, 07:58:22 PM »
These are one time use items that will only be used once unlike disposable pans that are used occasionally more than once

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Re: Tevilas Keilim Master Thread
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2025, 08:22:11 PM »
Sous vide machine?

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Re: Tevilas Keilim Master Thread
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2025, 08:34:24 PM »
Sous vide machine?
Does it ever come in contact with food?
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