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« Reply #10215 on: July 30, 2019, 03:02:46 PM »
Manischewitz hasn't been owned by the founding family for about two decades.

The MO of the Herzog family hasn't changed. Ever since they decided to go beyond wine, any kosher food label has been their target.
I suspect this is specifically targeting the Manischewitz - Welch's grape juice

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« Reply #10216 on: July 30, 2019, 03:07:52 PM »
I suspect this is specifically targeting the Manischewitz - Welch's grape juice
AFAIK, Manischewitz does not own the grape juice anymore. They sold it to Welch's and Welch's pays them for branding because it wasn't selling without the Manischewitz brand name.
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« Reply #10217 on: July 30, 2019, 03:14:37 PM »
AFAIK, Manischewitz does not own the grape juice anymore. They sold it to Welch's and Welch's pays them for branding because it wasn't selling without the Manischewitz brand name.
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« Reply #10218 on: July 30, 2019, 03:21:40 PM »
I suspect this is specifically targeting the Manischewitz - Welch's grape juice

Why would that be more of a target than any of the other kosher food sold by that group. After all they took over virtually all of their competitors throughout the years ever since they branched out of wine (and the bit of gefilte fish jars they used to sell). Itzkowitz, Hadar, etc. etc. were all taken over by the Herzog's companies. And even before that, they were taking over other wine labels (and importers IINM) that started to gain a foothold in the market (Rashi, Kesser, etc.).

I remember in the 1990s when the then owner of Haddar (or more precisely ERBA Food) decided to get into the wine business as retaliation for the Herzogs getting into his lines of business. Well, we know where that ended.
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« Reply #10219 on: July 30, 2019, 03:25:50 PM »
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« Reply #10220 on: July 30, 2019, 03:28:33 PM »

I remember in the 1990s when the then owner of Hadar (the name of the corporation slips my mind at the moment, but that was the main brand name under which products were marketed) decided to get into the wine business as retaliation for the Herzogs getting into his lines of business. Well, we know where that ended.

I thought it was the other way around. Hadar got into wine, so they went into food.

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« Reply #10221 on: July 30, 2019, 03:34:40 PM »
I thought it was the other way around. Hadar got into wine, so they went into food.

What made you think that?
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« Reply #10222 on: July 30, 2019, 04:07:25 PM »
I thought it was the other way around. Hadar got into wine, so they went into food.
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« Reply #10224 on: July 30, 2019, 04:15:30 PM »
What made you think that?
I heard such a thing from a fomily member of Hadar.
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« Reply #10225 on: July 30, 2019, 04:16:57 PM »
I heard such a thing from a fomily member of Hadar.

And I heard the exact opposite from a family member of Haddar/ERBA Food. IIRC it was before the wine reached US shores, and after the Gefen brand was started.
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« Reply #10226 on: July 30, 2019, 04:18:03 PM »
And I heard the exact opposite from a family member of Hadar, IIRC it was before the wine reached US shores, and after the Gefen brand was started.
Okay. If you recall correctly then that proves it.
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« Reply #10227 on: July 30, 2019, 04:20:22 PM »
This is an open and shut anti-trust lawsuit. One can only hope. We Jews have a problem with initiating it ourselves, but I'd be giddy if it were to happen.

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« Reply #10228 on: July 30, 2019, 04:42:39 PM »
This is an open and shut anti-trust lawsuit. One can only hope. We Jews have a problem with initiating it ourselves, but I'd be giddy if it were to happen.

Did it happen with any of their other takeovers?
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« Reply #10229 on: July 30, 2019, 04:44:24 PM »
Did it happen with any of their other takeovers?

But this time it has been taken one more step too far.