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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #12600 on: November 19, 2024, 10:41:13 PM »
Draw your own conclusions
I've been waiting six months already so I can just wait for someone to be clear.
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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #12601 on: November 20, 2024, 10:59:40 PM »
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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #12602 on: November 21, 2024, 12:02:41 AM »
Meh-just a big mishkibable.
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« Reply #12603 on: November 21, 2024, 12:29:55 AM »
Interesting take, considering the source.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/19/opinion/donald-trump-israel-gaza.html

https://archive.is/F0YxR

Just another liberal saying Trump can be great if he moves to the left.
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« Reply #12604 on: November 21, 2024, 12:41:00 AM »
Just another liberal saying Trump can be great if he moves to the left.

Where did you see him say anything about moving to the left? The only place I see anything like that was in contrast to some of his appointments, who are far to the right of any US policy since 1948. He seems to use Trump's previous plan as the starting point, while acknowledging that 10/7 likely will change some of that.
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« Reply #12605 on: November 21, 2024, 10:48:41 AM »
Where did you see him say anything about moving to the left? The only place I see anything like that was in contrast to some of his appointments, who are far to the right of any US policy since 1948. He seems to use Trump's previous plan as the starting point, while acknowledging that 10/7 likely will change some of that.

He uses the parts of Trump's previous plan that he likes and fit in with the failed Clinton plan.
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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #12607 on: December 23, 2024, 11:20:07 AM »
https://www.tabletmag.com/feature/rapid-onset-political-enlightenment

Other than the glaring absence of the term "Bolshevik," this could almost have been written by @ExGingi
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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #12609 on: December 23, 2024, 11:54:38 AM »
Other than the glaring absence of the term "Bolshevik," this could almost have been written by @ExGingi

I don't bother writing or making people read such lengthy dissertations. I get straight to the point.

TLDR, Bolshevik

If you want to understand this a little deeper. Read or listen to Yuri Bezmenov and Ion Mihai Pacepa. Once you have their knowledge, reread the Tablet Magazine piece.
« Last Edit: December 23, 2024, 11:58:28 AM by ExGingi »
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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #12610 on: December 23, 2024, 01:37:03 PM »
I don't bother writing or making people read such lengthy dissertations. I get straight to the point.

If you want to understand this a little deeper. Read or listen to Yuri Bezmenov and Ion Mihai Pacepa. Once you have their knowledge, reread the Tablet Magazine piece.

Do you have any specific item/s of theirs to read?
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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #12611 on: December 24, 2024, 04:38:53 AM »
Guy doesn't seem to notice that liberalism is even more of a cult than the Trump people are.

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“THE CULT OF THE FOUNDER.” “THE CULT OF THE TECH GENIUS.”

“Beware: Silicon Valley’s cultists want to turn you into a disruptive deviant.” “Tech’s cult of the founder bounces back.” “Silicon Valley’s Strange, Apocalyptic Cults.” “How the cult of personality and tech-bro culture is killing technology.” “Company or cult?” “Is your corporate culture cultish?” “The Cult of Company Culture Is Back. But Do Tech Workers Even Want Perks Anymore?” “10 tech gadgets with a cult following on Amazon—and why they’re worth it.” “13 steps to developing a cult-like company culture.”

The headlines seem to write themselves (if that cliché is allowed anymore in the age of ChatGPT and generative AI). Tech is culty. But that is a metaphor, right? Right?!

When I first saw Michael Saylor’s Twitter account, I wasn’t sure. Saylor is an entrepreneur, tech executive, and former billionaire. Once reportedly the richest man in the Washington, DC, area, he lost most of his $7 billion net worth in 2000 when, in his mid-30s, he reached a settlement with the US Securities and Exchange Commission after it brought charges against him and two of his colleagues at a company called MicroStrategy for inaccurate reporting of their financial results. But I had no idea who he was back then.


In 2021 Saylor started showing up in my Twitter feed. His profile picture showed a man with chiseled features, silver hair, and stubble sitting in a power pose and looking directly into the camera, a black dress shirt unbuttoned to display a generous amount of his neck. It was a typical tech entrepreneur’s publicity shot except for the lightning bolts blasting from his eyes, and the golden halo crown. Then there were his tweets:

#Bitcoin is Truth.

#Bitcoin is For All Mankind.

#Bitcoin is Different.

Trust the Timechain.

Fiat [government-backed currency] is immoral. #Bitcoin is immortal.

#Bitcoin is a shining city in cyberspace, waiting for you.

#Bitcoin is the heartbeat of Planet Earth.

As MIT’s humanist chaplain, I follow a lot of ministers, rabbis, imams, and monks online. Very few religious leaders would dare to be this religious on social media. They know that few of their readers want to see such hubris. Why, then, does there seem to be an audience for this seemingly cultish behavior from a cryptocurrency salesman? Are tech leaders like Saylor leading actual cults?

According to Bretton Putter, an expert on startups and CEO of the consulting firm CultureGene, this needn’t be a major concern: “It’s pretty much impossible,” Putter writes, “for a business to become a full-blown cult.” And if a tech company or other business happens to resemble a cult, that might just be a good thing, he argues: “If you succeed in building a cultlike culture similar to the way that Apple, Tesla, Zappos, Southwest Airlines, Nordstrom, and Harley-Davidson have, you will experience loyalty, dedication, and commitment from your employees (and customers) that is way beyond the norm.”

Are the cultlike aspects of tech companies really that benign? Or should we be worried? To find the answer, I interviewed Steve Hassan, a top expert on exit counseling, or helping people escape destructive cults.

At age 19, while he was studying poetry at Queens College in New York City in the early 1970s, Hassan was recruited into the Unification Church—the famously manipulative cult also known as the Moonies. Over his next 27 months as a member of the church, Hassan helped with its fundraising, recruiting, and political efforts, which involved personally meeting with the cult leader Sun Myung Moon multiple times. He lived in communal housing, slept only a few hours a night, and sold carnations on street corners seven days a week for no pay. He was told to drop out of college and turn his bank account over to the church. In 1976, he fell asleep at the wheel while driving a Moonie fundraising van and drove into the back of a tractor-trailer at high speed. He called his sister from the hospital, and his parents hired former members to help “deprogram” him and extract him from the cult.

After the Jonestown mass suicide and murders of 1978 brought attention to the lethal dangers of cult mind control, Hassan founded a nonprofit organization, Ex-Moon Inc. Since then, he’s earned a handful of graduate degrees (including a doctorate in the study of cults), started numerous related projects, and written a popular book on how practices with which he is all too familiar have crept into the mainstream of US politics in recent years. (That 2019 book, The Cult of Trump: A Leading Cult Expert Explains How the President Uses Mind Control, seemed even more relevant in early 2024, when a video called “God Made Trump” went viral across the campaign trail.) Hassan even found himself advising Maryland congressman Jamie Raskin, leader of the second impeachment trial against Donald Trump, in 2021, on how to think and communicate about the cultish aspects of the violent mob of Trump followers who stormed the Capitol on January 6 of that year.

I wanted to ask Hassan what he makes of the discourse around tech cults, but first it’s important to understand how he thinks about cults in the first place. Hassan’s dissertation was titled “The BITE Model of Authoritarian Control: Undue Influence, Thought Reform, Brainwashing, Mind Control, Trafficking, and the Law.” The idea was to create a model that could measure cult exploitation and manipulation, or what Hassan and other experts in related fields call “undue influence.” His BITE model looks to evaluate the ways social groups and institutions attempt to control followers’ behavior, information access, thoughts, and emotions. Because there is no one quintessential, Platonic definition of a cult, what matters is where a given instance of potential cultishness falls on an “influence continuum.” In this continuum model, Hassan evaluates the ways in which institutional cultures attempt to influence people. To what extent are individuals allowed to be their authentic selves or required to adopt a false cult identity? Are leaders accountable to others, or do they claim absolute authority? Do organizations encourage growth in the people who participate in them, or do they seek to preserve their own power over all else? While any kind of person or group can struggle with some of the dimensions on Hassan’s continuum chart (which lists constructive behaviors at one end and destructive behaviors at the other), healthier organizations will tend toward constructive responses more of the time, whereas unhealthier institutions—those more truly worthy of the cult label in the most negative sense—will tend toward destructive responses such as grandiosity, hate, demands for obedience, elitism, authoritarianism, deceptiveness, or hunger for power.


It turns out that there are some real, meaningful similarities between cults and tech, according to Hassan. “This is the perfect mind-control device,” he told me, holding up his iPhone. He explained that when he joined the Moonies in 1974, cult recruiters had to get information from the victim. Now, he said, users of everyday technologies are sitting ducks: “There are 5,000 data points on every voting American in the dark web, and there are companies that will collect and sell that data.”

The first time Hassan was told about cryptocurrency, he added, it smacked of multilevel marketing to him. The proposition that you can make a fortune in a very short amount of time, with almost no labor, was something he had seen many times in his work. As was the idea that if you become an early investor in such a scheme, you’ll make more money if you recruit more people to join you. “The people who started it are always going to make 99% of the money,” Hassan said. And as in the cults that recruited him and continue to recruit the kinds of people who ultimately become his clients, “everyone else is going to get burned.”

All of this would certainly seem to explain why I so frequently hear from people, eager for me to know they are fellow atheists, who tell me to buy some bitcoin because it will rewire my neurons and cure me of the woke mind virus.


Of course, it should be noted that some scholars have complained about Hassan’s work, arguing that brainwashing and mind control are concepts for which there is not sufficient evidence. But I’m not claiming that tech uses literal brainwashing, nor is it like when a character in a Scooby-Doo episode hears “You are getting very sleepy” and then their eyes become squiggles. Hassan probably wouldn’t say so either.

Companies don’t need to go to such extremes to exert undue influence on us, though. And as is clear from the headlines I cited above, a lot of companies have been accused of, or associated with, a bit of cultishness.

I won’t attempt to evaluate anyone’s cultish tendencies on a scale of 1 to 10. But I see crypto sales techniques as a particularly good example of cultlike behavior, because if there’s one thing cults need to be good at to sustain their existence, it’s separating people from their wallets. Cryptocurrency has specialized in that to extraordinary effect.

It’s all a continuum, and it would be hard to find a person whose life is completely devoid of anything cultish, technological or otherwise. But as a culture, we are careening dangerously toward the wrong end of Hassan’s chart. Or to quote a Michael Saylor tweet, “We all stumble in the dark until we see the cyber light. #Bitcoin.”
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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #12613 on: January 30, 2025, 10:36:58 AM »
https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/30/europe/salwan-momika-quran-burnings-sweden-dead-intl/index.html

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Momika was on Thursday set to be handed a verdict in a trial where he was accused of incitement to racial hatred, Goran Lundahl, a lawyer for Stockholm’s District Court, told CNN. This sentencing has now been postponed.

Great reporting.
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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #12614 on: February 12, 2025, 09:14:05 AM »
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/403803
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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #12615 on: February 12, 2025, 01:14:28 PM »
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/commentisfree/2025/feb/12/trump-immigration-segregation-dei

Do you think she has a point? Either way, the history of legal race status
in the US touched on here is something people may not have heard of.
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« Reply #12616 on: February 17, 2025, 06:06:22 AM »
https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/23/business/iphone-tiktok-ebay/index.html
Maybe I'm just late to the party, but I was searching ebay for a cheap used old iphone and noticed the listings for thousands of dollars with the word tiktok in the title. Google led me here.

Fascinating, especially since it seems likely no one is actually paying those prices for tiktok phones. And those who are, are not buying iphone 13.

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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #12618 on: March 03, 2025, 08:23:12 AM »
 It’s time for a zero-trust approach to “news”, argues the very real Jon Honeyball.

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It was a watershed moment. I’m
not too sure what brought it on – maybe the rather nice gin and
tonic I was enjoying in Virgin
Upper Class on my flight to Los
Angeles en route to CES? But I’ve
drunk many gin and tonics and
they’ve never had this effect before.
Yet there, undeniably, it was. As real
as the bubbles surrounding the slice
of lemon, the realisation that I
couldn’t trust most anything on the
internet any more.
This might seem like a trivial
matter. A “doh!” moment that’s
obvious to many. But having been
around in the online world since well
before the internet existed in its
current form, I have always felt an
underlying bedrock of trust.
That trust has gone. It’s not just the
rise of AI-generated audio and video,
where the creation of a deepfake is a
few mouse clicks away; it’s the
underlying worry that almost
everything generated by a GPT-style
LLM is another layer of obfuscation
and fog. I know some will give links
through to the underlying site from
where a particular “fact” was scraped,
but when I visit those sites I often
conclude that the source words were
just concocted by another AI engine.
That video you’ve just watched?
It might have looked authentic, but
Hollywood-grade imaging is now
available on your phone, let alone
your desktop. The fakery goes deeper
and deeper, and at some point we
have to say “stop!”
My hackles rose a further inch
when I read that the CEO of Suno, an
AI music site, claimed that musicians
don’t actually enjoy making music.
Apparently, it’s just so much more
“fun” to have software write it for us.
Those hackles only sharpen when I
think about the ease with which AI
can create kind-of Beatles-ish music.
And that many people download it,
whether they think it’s the real thing
or it simply scratches their Beatle itch.
I won’t engage with AI-generated
content, simply because it’s a rising
level of noise that my head can’t cope
with. The issue is not whether
AI-generated content is good or not –
it’s that there is already too much of it,
and it’s only going to get worse.
 AI isn’t the only problem: my trust
in so-called news has also evaporated.
Now anyone with a smartphone can be
a social newscaster; the age of
professionalism, where cost and effort
went into training journalists,
has been replaced by the faux
professionalism of a slickly
made video that anyone can
create. And that video can
circle the world via social
media quicker than you can
say “tap to view”, whether
it’s real or not.
 Meanwhile, platforms
are claiming that they are
the one true source, that
they are “open” and support “free
speech” while simultaneously
shutting down editorial management,
unhindered by any semblance of
responsibility for the content on their
site. Do you really have the time,
energy and emotional strength to get
involved in a “discussion” on Twitter,
when you consider the pile-on that
can happen from those who are sure
you’re wrong? It’s school-yard
bullying taken to a global scale.
 It’s fine if you’re JK Rowling and
have the finances and moral grit to
take this on. But mere mortals are in a
far more fragile position.
 All of this means I’m not posting
to social media any more. I had hopes
for Bluesky, but while it’s better
than Twitter, it’s still not good
enough. My Facebook world is
heavily locked down, but even
that is now flooded with adverts –
yesterday, one in two postings was
an advert, and this is not a level of
signal to noise that I can cope with.
 So what’s the answer, other than to
retreat into our caves? Simple: find
outlets where the journalist puts their
name, face and preferably an email
address to their words. Get to know
what they think and why. Almost
everyone has biases and some form of
agenda, but that’s true of everything.
Get over it. We need to relearn how to
listen to conversations, to interact
without erupting in a blaze of anger.
Mainstream media is full of flaws,
but at least there’s someone there with
a pulse who is prepared to put a point
of view based on some semblance of
fact. It takes effort, it takes resources,
it takes time. And it takes investment
in the craft of reporting.
Is the mainstream media always
right? Of course not. But it’s time to
assume that everything else is rubbish,
without value, unless you have reason
to assess otherwise. Give upticks for
the genuine people who put in effort,
and actively shun the rest. The noise
simply isn’t worth the effort.
In the meantime, thanks for coming
along for this particular ride. These
words were written by me on a Sunday
afternoon, pondering where this
industry, and the global information
future, goes. Because it matters and I
care about it. And if you disagree, I’d
be delighted to hear from you. I
promise I’ll do my best to answer.

  Jon Honeyball isn’t really a contributing
editor to PC Pro but a cyborg AI engine who worries a lot.
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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #12619 on: March 04, 2025, 12:22:31 PM »
I don't like this thread being in the News board. An article isn't necessarily about current events.
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