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« Reply #5955 on: January 18, 2017, 12:22:54 AM »
but did not address it

I kinda did. I said he was overly punished, meaning even what he did wrong did not warrant the punishment. I also said he that he is mentally ill and he deserves reduced time for his beneficial whistleblowing. He also already served time, 35 years is preposterous.
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« Reply #5956 on: January 18, 2017, 12:27:57 AM »
Obama is freeing Bradley/Chelsea Manning from a 35 yr prison sentence: https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-commutes-sentence-intelligence-analyst-chelsea-manning-213151598.html

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« Reply #5957 on: January 18, 2017, 12:34:58 AM »
I kinda did. I said he was overly punished, meaning even what he did wrong did not warrant the punishment. I also said he that he is mentally ill and he deserves reduced time for his beneficial whistleblowing. He also already served time, 35 years is preposterous.

The real question is how Obama can justify it. He obviously can't use your "mentally ill" reason, and if he points to the whistleblowing he takes away any his ability to complain about the DNC hack.

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« Reply #5958 on: January 18, 2017, 12:39:09 AM »
The real question is how Obama can justify it. He obviously can't use your "mentally ill" reason, and if he points to the whistleblowing he takes away any his ability to complain about the DNC hack.
This is one power they should take away from the president. The courts have spoken. That's the reason we have a legal system.  >:(
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« Reply #5959 on: January 18, 2017, 12:39:31 AM »
The real question is how Obama can justify it. He obviously can't use your "mentally ill" reason, and if he points to the whistleblowing he takes away any his ability to complain about the DNC hack.
Bingo.
And releasing classified information is arguably treason, making 35 years lenient.

It's probably not PC to say, but no way Manning gets his sentence commuted if he's not transgender
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« Reply #5960 on: January 18, 2017, 12:41:45 AM »
This is one power they should take away from the president. The courts have spoken. That's the reason we have a legal system.  >:(
I disagree. The president should be responsible to use it only in extenuating circumstances (think Nixon)
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« Reply #5961 on: January 18, 2017, 12:42:00 AM »
The real question is how Obama can justify it. He obviously can't use your "mentally ill" reason, and if he points to the whistleblowing he takes away any his ability to complain about the DNC hack.

The question is why despite his campaigning on transparency, and failing to deliver any of that during his 8 years, he finally decides to become a little more transparent at the end when it no longer benefits his legacy?
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« Reply #5962 on: January 18, 2017, 12:42:10 AM »
It's probably not PC to say, but no way Manning gets his sentence commuted if he's not transgender
...but accurate!
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« Reply #5963 on: January 18, 2017, 12:44:47 AM »
The president should be responsible to use it only in extenuating circumstances (think Nixon)
So a president breaking the law is OK?
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« Reply #5964 on: January 18, 2017, 12:46:00 AM »
The real question is how Obama can justify it. He obviously can't use your "mentally ill" reason, and if he points to the whistleblowing he takes away any his ability to complain about the DNC hack.

I believe Mannings attorney has argued that he's mentally ill, not sure what's so PC about mentioning it.
Saw NPR say the same.
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« Reply #5965 on: January 18, 2017, 12:46:22 AM »
The question is why despite his campaigning on transparency, and failing to deliver any of that during his 8 years,
Considering he has been one of the most transparent and corruption free president we have had your question is loaded.
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« Reply #5966 on: January 18, 2017, 12:47:22 AM »
I believe Mannings attorney has argued that he's mentally ill, not sure what's so PC about mentioning it.
So send him to a mental hospital then when he is OK he can serve the rest of his sentence.
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« Reply #5967 on: January 18, 2017, 12:48:26 AM »
Considering he has been one of the most transparent and corruption free president we have had your question is loaded.

I disagree, but let's leave it at the fact that I give Obama credit for promoting transparency now.
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« Reply #5968 on: January 18, 2017, 12:50:31 AM »
So send him to a mental hospital then when he is OK he can serve the rest of his sentence.

Why serve (more) time if he was suffering from a mental disorder at the time he committed the crime?
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« Reply #5969 on: January 18, 2017, 12:52:23 AM »
The president of the Philippines would throw him from a helicopter.