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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #6030 on: January 19, 2017, 10:17:09 AM »
Ah the rationalists...the liberal elite of the Orthodox world.
All that either succeed in doing other than savoring their own indignance is to create what must now be referred to as the "Trump Effect." Keep pulling on the Chinese finger trap, boys. It's bound to loosen up eventually if you pull hard enough.

But what should the rationalists do when they are indeed correct?

Or, how do you suppose we curb the rampant reliance on quack "medicine" and distrust of real doctors?
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« Reply #6031 on: January 19, 2017, 10:19:01 AM »
"LESS IS MORE" It is the cumulative effect that kills deals!!! How many times do I have to say this?  >:(

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« Reply #6032 on: January 19, 2017, 10:25:11 AM »
I know it is only Thursday but isn't anyone going to try and defend this decision? I dare you, make that a double dare!  :P

It's 100% allowed when saving lives and personal safety are at stake in an emergency.

Because this is a planned event, then this type of thing is not generally considered an emergency. However, perhaps they are really putting decoys into the cars, and they are actually planning to walk home or stay overnight somewhere else for Shabbos, and just create a diffused view for the public?
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« Reply #6033 on: January 19, 2017, 10:25:33 AM »
I know it is only Thursday but isn't anyone going to try and defend this decision? I dare you, make that a double dare!  :P

Won't say anything because it's thinly sourced. Would be indefensible if true.

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« Reply #6034 on: January 19, 2017, 10:26:04 AM »
But what should the rationalists do when they are indeed correct?
Some people's worst enemy is being correct.

Or, how do you suppose we curb the rampant reliance on quack "medicine" and distrust of real doctors?
Nu, see my original comment on this subject.

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« Reply #6035 on: January 19, 2017, 10:26:33 AM »
But what should the rationalists do when they are indeed correct?

Or, how do you suppose we curb the rampant reliance on quack "medicine" and distrust of real doctors?
I think it's possible for rabbonim to walk that fine line. The balance here is between seeking appropriate care while not relying on it - relying on HKBH instead.

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« Reply #6036 on: January 19, 2017, 10:30:03 AM »
Won't say anything because it's thinly sourced. Would be indefensible if true.
Hope it is true only because it would make one heck of a PC thread. My response would be see DS's signature.  :)
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« Reply #6037 on: January 19, 2017, 10:36:06 AM »
Did she get permission to show pictures of her it that nighty to? I remember a long time ago discussing a basketball team playing on Shabbat. I asked if was possible and everyone laughed at me. Whos laughing now!!!  :P
Don't want you getting the wrong idea here. While we may all share the title 'Orthodox Jew', the version of Judaism practiced by the Kushners is likely not quite the same version as what's practiced by most members here. The difference is as wide as [insert 2 different types of Christianity hre - not well versed enough to select a good example ;D].

Just to give you an example, let's remember that Jared dated a non-Jew. Sure she converted before they married, but the idea of dating a non-Jew would be so absolutely foreign to the vast majority on this forum.

It's 100% allowed when saving lives and personal safety are at stake in an emergency.

Because this is a planned event, then this type of thing is not generally considered an emergency. However, perhaps they are really putting decoys into the cars, and they are actually planning to walk home or stay overnight somewhere else for Shabbos, and just create a diffused view for the public?
Always a conspiracy theory. At least it's fun.
Won't say anything because it's thinly sourced. Would be indefensible if true.
Not sure why anyone would be surprised. Assuming they're asking their current rabbi (who did her geirus), it would not be particularly out of character.

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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #6038 on: January 19, 2017, 10:41:57 AM »
Nu, see my original comment on this subject.

Link?
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« Reply #6039 on: January 19, 2017, 10:42:48 AM »
Don't want you getting the wrong idea here. While we may all share the title 'Orthodox Jew', the version of Judaism practiced by the Kushners is likely not quite the same version as what's practiced by most members here. The difference is as wide as [insert 2 different types of Christianity hre - not well versed enough to select a good example ;D].

Just to give you an example, let's remember that Jared dated a non-Jew. Sure she converted before they married, but the idea of dating a non-Jew would be so absolutely foreign to the vast majority on this forum.
I fully understand and just having some fun. I said before I have to meet her Rabbi. If he will give me an exemption to be able to eat lobster I would sign up tomorrow.  :)
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« Reply #6040 on: January 19, 2017, 10:43:37 AM »
Link?

It's on the previous page! Just click back. But here, I'll save you the effort.

Ah the rationalists...the liberal elite of the Orthodox world.
All that either succeed in doing other than savoring their own indignance is to create what must now be referred to as the "Trump Effect." Keep pulling on the Chinese finger trap, boys. It's bound to loosen up eventually if you pull hard enough.

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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #6041 on: January 19, 2017, 10:43:44 AM »
It's 100% allowed when saving lives and personal safety are at stake in an emergency.

Because this is a planned event, then this type of thing is not generally considered an emergency. However, perhaps they are really putting decoys into the cars, and they are actually planning to walk home or stay overnight somewhere else for Shabbos, and just create a diffused view for the public?
According to DJT they'll all (children and grandchildren) be staying in the White House Friday night.  I can't imagine the White House is Shabbos proof.

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« Reply #6042 on: January 19, 2017, 10:43:59 AM »
@ScottAdamsSays has recently been taking on the issue of climate change. He's not taken a side, but claims that each side sounds reasonable, and that the contrarians are more persuasive.

So when the news came today about 2016 being the hottest year on record, I searched and searched for a contrarian opinion, and couldn't find until Scott retweeted one.

Think it's persuasive?

http://thefederalist.com/2017/01/18/nyt-hid-numbers-hottest-year-record/#.WH_Uwyn2WqM.twitter

Until the climate scientists get out of their echo chamber I don't see why it's worth worrying about the sky falling.

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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #6043 on: January 19, 2017, 10:45:19 AM »
Ah the rationalists...the liberal elite of the Orthodox world.
All that either succeed in doing other than savoring their own indignance is to create what must now be referred to as the "Trump Effect." Keep pulling on the Chinese finger trap, boys. It's bound to loosen up eventually if you pull hard enough.
Can we please focus on the book?

Who wants to talk about the rasha'nalists.
It's not about them this time.

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« Reply #6044 on: January 19, 2017, 10:46:36 AM »
The tone of the article (especially at the end) is a bit over the top...
The whole website is oozing and dripping with kefirah and rishus. Shouldn't be read at all.