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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #6200 on: February 05, 2017, 08:28:08 PM »
Maybe when all the kids are grown and I'm retired on a farm  :D
Nice suburban home works.  ;)
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« Reply #6201 on: February 05, 2017, 08:49:22 PM »
Nice suburban home works.  ;)
I only go for the extremes, it's either proper city living, or a proper farm! In any event, let's revisit in about two decades when the other condition has been fulfilled.
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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #6204 on: February 07, 2017, 07:52:50 AM »
https://www.algemeiner.com/2017/02/06/in-unprecedented-statement-orthodox-union-condemns-women-in-clergy-roles-outlines-permissible-opportunities/


Re the 17 page teshuva, I wish they would present the breakdown of the differing opinions re yoatzot....
To me it felt like the tone of the  OU is way more feministic than the teshuva allowed for.

(btw, I find the whole "halachic methodology disclosure" section at the beginning hilarious and sad. But I guess that's what the college educated community expect and respect... Long discussion.)

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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #6205 on: February 07, 2017, 08:10:15 AM »
https://www.algemeiner.com/2017/02/06/in-unprecedented-statement-orthodox-union-condemns-women-in-clergy-roles-outlines-permissible-opportunities/


Re the 17 page teshuva, I wish they would present the breakdown of the differing opinions re yoatzot....
To me it felt like the tone of the  OU is way more feministic than the teshuva allowed for.

The "Yoatzot" as described in the paper is a position brought already in the Pischei Tshuva from the Chasam Sofer very non-chalantly as having existed discussing a woman who brought a mareh to the woman who was appointed for this for a ruling.
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« Reply #6206 on: February 07, 2017, 08:48:55 AM »
The "Yoatzot" as described in the paper is a position brought already in the Pischei Tshuva from the Chasam Sofer very non-chalantly as having existed discussing a woman who brought a mareh to the woman who was appointed for this for a ruling.
Shkoiach. CMIIW but that wasn't part of a feminist movement.

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« Reply #6207 on: February 08, 2017, 01:16:10 AM »
How about this line:
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It is the majority opinion of our panel that the appointment of women to clergy positions would be a contradiction to this halakhic ethos.
The implication being that some disagreed with this particular disqualification.

I guess I'm curious in general about how the 7 individuals contributed. I assume one of them must have ultimately been the final writer/compiler.

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« Reply #6210 on: February 08, 2017, 11:36:15 AM »
Nice suburban home works.  ;)
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« Reply #6211 on: February 08, 2017, 03:06:22 PM »
Wow. Can't imagine that'll be upheld on appeal.
Only thing I see in her favor is pass practice. If that same past practice wasn't extended to all religions IMHO she does not have a case.
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« Reply #6213 on: February 08, 2017, 09:17:52 PM »
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« Reply #6215 on: February 08, 2017, 09:30:38 PM »
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« Reply #6217 on: February 08, 2017, 09:43:05 PM »
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-08/the-big-reason-whites-are-richer-than-blacks-in-america

Does this have any truth to it or is it politically motivated?

I wonder how many wealthy immigrants or descendants of immigrants inherited wealth.

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« Reply #6218 on: February 08, 2017, 09:43:42 PM »
Had a really hard time following her logic
Why in the world would you think it has anything to do with logic?
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« Reply #6219 on: February 08, 2017, 09:50:10 PM »
Why in the world would you think it has anything to do with logic?
I don't. but she does and I just can't even make out what  her line of thought was. The article was completely incoherent.