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« Reply #6860 on: April 30, 2017, 12:13:39 PM »
Not anymore horrific than the way their victims were murdered. This is just another way of arguing against the death penalty. Saying "If we have one it has to be pretty and peaceful." is the antithesis of the vengeful nature of the death penalty. There is no purpose other than vengeance that the death penalty exists. Its not a deterrent.
Its not a deterrent since its rarely used.

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« Reply #6861 on: April 30, 2017, 12:18:23 PM »
The cost of the actual materials is around $100 and change. No idea what they pay after everyone takes a cut.
I don't mean the cost to manufacture them. The cost the prisons pay for them. A lot

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« Reply #6862 on: April 30, 2017, 12:58:10 PM »
Utah had the firing squad until a few years ago.
+1  And it's still a backup plan or something IIRC.

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« Reply #6863 on: April 30, 2017, 01:00:33 PM »
+1  And it's still a backup plan or something IIRC.
AFAIK OK is the only state left and as a secondary means only.
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« Reply #6864 on: April 30, 2017, 01:13:26 PM »
AFAIK OK is the only state left and as a secondary means only.
GIYF. Utah and Oklahoma are the only two states with a firing squad option for death row inmates. UT has three death row inmates who recently (last week or two) elected to use this method in their upcoming executions (dates not set yet). Because it is a legal secondary option, they are given the choice.

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« Reply #6865 on: April 30, 2017, 01:24:42 PM »
GIYF. Utah and Oklahoma are the only two states with a firing squad option for death row inmates. UT has three death row inmates who recently (last week or two) elected to use this method in their upcoming executions (dates not set yet). Because it is a legal secondary option, they are given the choice.
Isn't that only for death sentences handed down before 2004 when they went to lethal injections?
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« Reply #6866 on: April 30, 2017, 01:32:22 PM »
I don't mean the cost to manufacture them. The cost the prisons pay for them. A lot

Isn't that because anti death penalty activists pressure drug companies not to sell to them?

If the activists really cared about the people being executed, they would want the state to have the most effective drugs.

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« Reply #6867 on: April 30, 2017, 01:58:04 PM »
Because that & because the pharmaceuticals are in the business of making money. Big money.

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« Reply #6868 on: April 30, 2017, 01:59:37 PM »
Isn't one of the drugs made overseas and they are against the death penalty so they stop making it?
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« Reply #6869 on: April 30, 2017, 02:32:29 PM »
Isn't one of the drugs made overseas and they are against the death penalty so they stop making it?
There's so much political cr*p involved in putting a monster to death. Sad

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« Reply #6870 on: April 30, 2017, 02:36:26 PM »
Isn't one of the drugs made overseas and they are against the death penalty so they stop making it?
That is why they executed all these guys now. Their stock was about to expire and they can't get more. Their using old stock may be the cause of the complaints.
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« Reply #6871 on: April 30, 2017, 02:39:34 PM »
That is why they executed all these guys now. Their stock was about to expire and they can't get more. Their using old stock may be the cause of the complaints.
Hmmm. Perhaps they could get expired stuff for way cheaper. I know a store that does that. :)

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« Reply #6873 on: April 30, 2017, 03:11:21 PM »


There's so much political cr*p involved in putting a person to death. Sad.

That goes for both people that are killed and people that aren't. There have been people sentenced to death under dubious convictions for political reasons, just as there are people that have been allowed to walk for politicians personal gain. It's all a joke. I think almost anyone who's dealt with the prison system and DOJ and knows how corrupt it is doesn't support the death penalty.
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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« Reply #6877 on: April 30, 2017, 07:56:57 PM »
There have been people sentenced to death under dubious convictions for political reasons...
Do you have an example?
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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #6878 on: April 30, 2017, 07:58:01 PM »

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« Reply #6879 on: April 30, 2017, 08:01:44 PM »
Rosenbergs!
Do you have an example you can be objective about?
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