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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #7966 on: November 06, 2017, 12:20:38 PM »
Yeshivish. Lol
I don't understand your problem. Minute adjustments:
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Other adjustments at City were less pronounced. I became Andrew instead of Avrohom Yehuda. My usual Yeshivish dress code of dark pants and a white dress shirt was replaced with a school uniform of khaki pants and a black shirt.
A pity no one else in that classroom knows about the uniform...

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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #7967 on: November 06, 2017, 11:32:30 PM »
http://forward.com/scribe/386754/why-i-chose-to-attend-public-high-school-even-though-im-ultra-orthodox/?

I am still Yeshivish despite the naysayers who predicted my immediate religious demise at the start of high school. Along with earning an IB diploma at the end of this year, I have completed a 10,000-word research paper on science fiction themes in the Babylonian Talmud, which culminates three years of intense learning and analysis of various Talmudic tractates.

Read more: http://forward.com/scribe/386754/why-i-chose-to-attend-public-high-school-even-though-im-ultra-orthodox/

Instead of going to public school and having a tutor for limudei Kodesh, why didn't he go to yeshiva and get a tutor to "explore viewpoints which were absent from the pages of the Talmud"?

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« Reply #7968 on: November 06, 2017, 11:33:39 PM »
Instead of going to public school and having a tutor for limudei Kodesh, why didn't he go to yeshiva and get a tutor to "explore viewpoints which were absent from the pages of the Talmud"?

Yah. There's obviously a lot more to the story.  Including why he's writing the article.

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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #7969 on: November 07, 2017, 01:16:44 AM »
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Other adjustments at City were less pronounced. I became Andrew instead of Avrohom Yehuda.

Andrew?! Why Andrew?! So weird. Where do I even begin?

Okay, first of all, ummm.... Abraham?! You can't be Abraham?! As in Lincoln?! Too hard for the public school teachers to remember.

Second of all... Andrew?! Why the name of one of Yoshke's apostles?! Davka a New Testament name it had to be.

Third of all, why not Avraham Yehuda?! There are kids in public school named Kumquat and Xylophone but Avraham Yeuda is too exotic?!

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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #7970 on: November 07, 2017, 07:35:13 AM »


Andrew?! Why Andrew?! So weird. Where do I even begin?

Okay, first of all, ummm.... Abraham?! You can't be Abraham?! As in Lincoln?! Too hard for the public school teachers to remember.

Second of all... Andrew?! Why the name of one of Yoshke's apostles?! Davka a New Testament name it had to be.

Third of all, why not Avraham Yehuda?! There are kids in public school named Kumquat and Xylophone but Avraham Yeuda is too exotic?!
Did you notice this:

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Most everyone at City now calls me Avrohom Yehuda or “AY” for short.


But the article is still written by "Andrew Altman."







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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #7971 on: November 07, 2017, 08:03:02 AM »
Did you notice this:
 

But the article is still written by "Andrew Altman."
Was going to post that this morning. One of the glaring contradictions.
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« Reply #7972 on: November 07, 2017, 08:29:27 AM »
I'm going to conclude based on some very difficult detective work that his legal name is, wait for it, Andrew
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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #7973 on: November 07, 2017, 11:23:02 AM »
Andrew?! Why Andrew?! So weird. Where do I even begin?

Okay, first of all, ummm.... Abraham?! You can't be Abraham?! As in Lincoln?! Too hard for the public school teachers to remember.

Second of all... Andrew?! Why the name of one of Yoshke's apostles?! Davka a New Testament name it had to be.

Third of all, why not Avraham Yehuda?! There are kids in public school named Kumquat and Xylophone but Avraham Yeuda is too exotic?!
I'm going to conclude based on some very difficult detective work that his legal name is, wait for it, Andrew
I know an Avraham (Avi) / Andrew. Don't remember if there was a reason his parents used that legal name, but same combo as this kid.

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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #7974 on: November 07, 2017, 11:34:51 AM »
I'm going to conclude based on some very difficult detective work that his legal name is, wait for it, Andrew

And therefore?
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« Reply #7975 on: November 07, 2017, 12:14:41 PM »
And therefore?
Probaby that he didn't "choose" it over Abraham, for example, but that he just started using his legal name from birth.

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« Reply #7977 on: November 07, 2017, 01:30:52 PM »
Probaby that he didn't "choose" it over Abraham, for example, but that he just started using his legal name from birth.

"Other adjustments at City were less pronounced. I became Andrew instead of Avrohom Yehuda."

Point is, he claims to have "chosen" Andrew over his real name to assimilate better into school. But out of school he is still using Andrew, as evidenced by the name on the article.

The issue here, beyond the choice of *what* name to use, and I believe this is what @Freddie was getting at (though he can speak for himself) is why would he feel the need to use his legal name in the first place, and why is he being dishonest about it?

And yes, he's being dishonest - intentionally or not:

If he started using it out of school as well, the change was far more pronounced than he's letting off.
If he always used his legal name, what change is he referring to in the article?

To judge him like this feels gross. But when you write such a piece and imply that others should follow your example, you are opening yourself up for analysis to see if the affects of the school had on you were maybe not quite as rosy as you made out.
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« Reply #7978 on: November 07, 2017, 01:47:04 PM »
"Other adjustments at City were less pronounced. I became Andrew instead of Avrohom Yehuda."

Point is, he claims to have "chosen" Andrew over his real name to assimilate better into school. But out of school he is still using Andrew, as evidenced by the name on the article.

The issue here, beyond the choice of *what* name to use, and I believe this is what @Freddie was getting at (though he can speak for himself) is why would he feel the need to use his legal name in the first place, and why is he being dishonest about it?

And yes, he's being dishonest - intentionally or not:

If he started using it out of school as well, the change was far more pronounced than he's letting off.
If he always used his legal name, what change is he referring to in the article?

To judge him like this feels gross. But when you write such a piece and imply that others should follow your example, you are opening yourself up for analysis to see if the affects of the school had on you were maybe not quite as rosy as you made out.

Yah. There's obviously a lot more to the story.  Including why he's writing the article.




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