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« Reply #8205 on: December 14, 2017, 01:22:44 PM »
Whoís being held hostage when you run a light ? Many donít even do it for the money, they just love the power & fame of bringing millions down to their knees.

You potentially kill someone when you run a red light.

I don't disagree that what they did was reprehensible. There are just more productive ways of dealing with them than incarcerating them or killing them.  Neither of those do anything for their victims, society, or them.

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« Reply #8206 on: December 14, 2017, 01:26:39 PM »
The article makes it sound like the FBI doesn't think the Dyn attack, which fits with what you're describing, was them.
They gave the codes out to everybody. Thanks to that itís still ongoing. And they caused enough damage on their own
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« Reply #8207 on: December 14, 2017, 01:27:56 PM »
I don't disagree that what they did was reprehensible. There are just more productive ways of dealing with them than incarcerating them or killing them.  Neither of those do anything for their victims, society, or them.
I see you donít understand anywhere close the extent of the damage done. You should never know
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« Reply #8208 on: December 14, 2017, 01:31:07 PM »
Why should they get any years?  They should be forced to forfeit all of their illicit proceeds, work toward fixing the problem they exploited, have their wages garnished to a fund to repay for damages caused, and have restricted/monitored computer access.
Throw them in Rikers for a few years.
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« Reply #8209 on: December 14, 2017, 01:41:33 PM »
They gave the codes out to everybody. Thanks to that itís still ongoing. And they caused enough damage on their own
I would not be surprised if that part was not even illegal at all.

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« Reply #8210 on: December 14, 2017, 01:47:30 PM »
I would not be surprised if that part was not even illegal at all.
Very possible. But they knew what putting it out there means. Prosecuting such crimes is still newish.

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« Reply #8211 on: December 14, 2017, 01:50:00 PM »
I see you donít understand anywhere close the extent of the damage done. You should never know

It seems you don't understand my argument.  Regardless of damage done, the penalty should be productive in some way, if possible.  Harsh penalties as deterrents can be said to be productive, if they in fact deter.  But if that is the purpose of the penalty, then the extent of the damage done shouldn't be relevant, only the potential extent should.
You don't have to be so creative to think of ways their lives can be made very difficult yet still enable them in some way to partially pay back.
If they develop a way to shut down DoS attacks of the type they developed and prevent further damages, the argument can be made that they fully repaid the damage they caused.

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« Reply #8212 on: December 14, 2017, 01:55:55 PM »
If they develop a way to shut down DoS attacks of the type they developed and prevent further damages, the argument can be made that they fully repaid the damage they caused.
never

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« Reply #8213 on: December 14, 2017, 02:30:04 PM »
Very possible. But they knew what putting it out there means. Prosecuting such crimes is still newish.
There are exceptions, but generally, the 'weapon maker' is not the one responsible when someone else uses that weapon for a crime.

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« Reply #8215 on: December 15, 2017, 08:15:36 AM »
http://fortune.com/2017/12/15/ups-inheritance-bankers-draft-td-canada-trust/

Title shows again why "news" media people are NEVER to be believed or trusted.

Yes, the title intrigued me as to how in the world is it possible for UPS to lose that kind of money. Reading the article shows a totally different culprit that ultimately made right.
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« Reply #8216 on: December 15, 2017, 10:29:24 AM »
http://fortune.com/2017/12/15/ups-inheritance-bankers-draft-td-canada-trust/

Title shows again why "news" media people are NEVER to be believed or trusted.

Yes, the title intrigued me as to how in the world is it possible for UPS to lose that kind of money. Reading the article shows a totally different culprit that ultimately made right.

I don't think the bank made right.  Took them 10 months,  and ridicule in the media,  and they still made her sign am indemnity instead of canceling the thing.  Which means they would still let it through and would still sue her for her house.

I have no idea of its possible to cancel such a check,  but she didn't want to use it in the first place.  The back insisted she use

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« Reply #8218 on: December 15, 2017, 12:47:36 PM »
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/miami-ends-right-light-camera-program-9912201

Amazing how they would vote to get rid of a cash cow. I can't imagine that ever happening in NYC. All they do is expand it. Bus Lanes, Red Lights, Speeding. It's just too addictive for the politicians to get this easy money.

Interesting quote out of article (emphasis added):

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« Reply #8219 on: December 15, 2017, 12:53:07 PM »
Amazing how they would vote to get rid of a cash cow. I can't imagine that ever happening in NYC. All they do is expand it. Bus Lanes, Red Lights, Speeding. It's just too addictive for the politicians to get this easy money.

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