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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #4180 on: October 26, 2015, 10:11:34 PM »
I'm not saying I agree with the way he may be doing things but do you disagree with the results he is trying to achieve?
What, forcing satmar to teach English?

If parents make an informed decision to teach their kids very minimal secular studies, who's business is it?

When a kid grows up and goes otd and has taynos its tough luck.

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« Reply #4181 on: October 26, 2015, 10:22:44 PM »
What, forcing satmar to teach English?
If parents make an informed decision to teach their kids very minimal secular studies, who's business is it?
When a kid grows up and goes otd and has taynos its tough luck.
Then don't take government funding....
It is not required, but is typically tied to federal funding as an “accountability provision,” according to testing experts.

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« Reply #4182 on: October 26, 2015, 10:29:02 PM »
Then don't take government funding....
It is not required, but is typically tied to federal funding as an “accountability provision,” according to testing experts.
This guys agenda has nothing to do with funding. That's just the weapon he uses.

This has affected many normal non satmar/Yiddish NY mosdos. Even those with a real secular curriculum. They rarely live up to the official standards. After all, they teach kodesh at least half the time.

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« Reply #4183 on: October 26, 2015, 10:33:53 PM »
I'm not saying I agree with the way he may be doing things but do you disagree with the results he is trying to achieve?
What to hurt the yeshivas? He doesn't give a flying f&%$ about the education they are receiving

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« Reply #4184 on: October 26, 2015, 10:40:05 PM »
What to hurt the yeshivas? He doesn't give a flying f&%$ about the education they are receiving

I take back what I wrote. I just looked him up.....

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« Reply #4185 on: October 26, 2015, 10:49:32 PM »
This guys agenda has nothing to do with funding. That's just the weapon he uses.


+1 

It's pretty clear that if his agenda is to improve secular education in yeshivos, his methods are only going to be counterproductive and entrench the idea that secular studies are being forced on them from outside.  Poor guy has an ax to grind.  Maybe he was abused in yeshiva and needs to get back?

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« Reply #4186 on: October 26, 2015, 11:05:44 PM »
+1 

It's pretty clear that if his agenda is to improve secular education in yeshivos, his methods are only going to be counterproductive and entrench the idea that secular studies are being forced on them from outside.  Poor guy has an ax to grind.  Maybe he was abused in yeshiva and needs to get back?
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« Reply #4187 on: October 26, 2015, 11:13:36 PM »
Get out the popcorn for this conversation
Nah, cm's not here yet. Wait.

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« Reply #4188 on: October 26, 2015, 11:19:16 PM »
Get out the popcorn for this conversation

It's controversial?

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« Reply #4189 on: October 26, 2015, 11:26:52 PM »
It's controversial?
the abuse part will make DDF go haywire

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« Reply #4190 on: October 26, 2015, 11:44:55 PM »
the abuse part will make DDF go haywire

It clearly hasn't. Henche said the word "abuse" an hour ago. Nobody's flipping out.

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« Reply #4191 on: October 26, 2015, 11:46:41 PM »
It clearly hasn't. Henche said the word "abuse" an hour ago. Nobody's flipping out.
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« Reply #4192 on: October 27, 2015, 12:22:08 AM »
Just catching up.  :)
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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #4197 on: October 27, 2015, 05:43:30 PM »
This is when it's nice to be on the Chabad side of the Hasidic spectrum. No need for a double life.
Why, no leadership?

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« Reply #4198 on: October 27, 2015, 05:52:45 PM »
http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/27/9620752/whatsapp-hasidic-jewish-internet-ban?utm_campaign=theverge&utm_content=feature&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
Insulation I guess has nothing to do with it.

"His ultra-orthodox sect has long banned internet use, on the grounds that exposure to the secular world would lead to moral corruption, sexual promiscuity, and infidelity."
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« Reply #4199 on: October 27, 2015, 05:53:40 PM »
Or we're taught to use technology to do positive things and we're trusted to do that and use moach shalit rather than being treated like children.

With the added benefit tbat you don't need to live the life of a hypocrite to stay within the fold.
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