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« Reply #9060 on: May 31, 2018, 03:07:07 PM »
Is Iraq the 53rd state?  :)
What about the Bosnian war? Did the Serbs get to keep the territory they won?
Again, who was the aggressor? I'm getting bored of repeating the same thing over and over again. I'm also getting a feeling that my first post was correct. So, are you trying to prove my point or just not getting that there is a double standard that has always been applied to the State of Israel, in this matter and in any matter of international law?
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« Reply #9061 on: May 31, 2018, 03:10:37 PM »
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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« Reply #9062 on: May 31, 2018, 03:18:47 PM »
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« Reply #9063 on: May 31, 2018, 03:20:19 PM »
Again, who was the aggressor?
Iraq was the aggressor unless I am missing something.
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« Reply #9064 on: May 31, 2018, 03:31:27 PM »
Iraq was the aggressor unless I am missing something.
Now youre being a troll.
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« Reply #9065 on: May 31, 2018, 03:33:48 PM »
Simple. Non-Jew, Jew.
It's actually only simple when Jews are involved.

In the case of non-Jews there are various considerations. Such as whether the war really ended or is it just a cease fire, whether one side was considered an aggressor or oppressor, or committing "crimes against humanity". But unequivocally, when it comes to the Jews, none of that matters.
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« Reply #9066 on: May 31, 2018, 03:35:49 PM »
Now youre being a troll.
Iraq against Kuwait was the aggressor and we stepped in. Also not everyone agrees the Serbs were the aggressors.
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« Reply #9067 on: May 31, 2018, 03:37:37 PM »
In the case of non-Jews there are various consideration. Such as whether the war really ended or is it just a cease fire, whether one side was considered an aggressor or oppressor, or committing "crimes against humanity". But unequivocally, when it comes to the Jews, none of that matters.
The victim card. Never expected that to be played.
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« Reply #9068 on: May 31, 2018, 03:39:24 PM »
Iraq against Kuwait was the aggressor and we stepped in. Also not everyone agrees the Serbs were the aggressors.
That's the exact point. With the Serbs there might be a disagreement as to who the aggressor was. When it comes to the Jews it's irrelevant.
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« Reply #9069 on: May 31, 2018, 03:43:18 PM »
The victim card. Never expected that to be played.
Who's playing a victim card? Just recognizing reality. As I said when I posted the article, I don't care one way or the other if it's annexed or not. Nor do I know what the practical difference is whether the US recognizes it (it should IMHO) or not.

If you don't think the fact that Jews get a different standard, kindly back it up with facts. We have over 2,000 years of experience.
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« Reply #9070 on: May 31, 2018, 04:26:31 PM »
The Golan Heights belongs to Israel. Israel was repeatedly attacked by Syria. Syria lost repeatedly. Israel has no desire to give it up and its army is able to defend it B"H. fait accompli. The local opposition to this is almost minimal. Not sure how many of its Druze or Arabs would rather be in Syria nowadays.
Please explain how this conflicts with US interest?
The UN should find another subject to argue about, it's not very interesting. Facts on the ground do matter.
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« Reply #9072 on: May 31, 2018, 04:51:00 PM »
Drag the US into another sh*t storm.  >:(



1 - US recognizing the annex only brings more hate on us, makes the peace process worse and accomplishes nothing.
2 - That is a hard one.

Just FYI this was the first thing that Bibi asked Trump during their first meeting

We can cherry-pick many different events. Is Japan part of the US because they lost the war? How about Iraq?
To say everyone should feel it belongs to Israel answers the question.



Who was the aggressor and who annexed what? If you fight a war and win the war you get to keep the territory you won. If you invade another country you get condemned. Did Israel invade the Golan or was it fighting a defensive war and captured territory? Like I said. They are the only ones who these rules apply to.

+100

And the reason of why Iraq, Afganistan etc aren't annexed is because they weren't invaded With the intention of keeping it. We don't want it or need it.

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« Reply #9073 on: May 31, 2018, 04:53:55 PM »
Just FYI this was the first thing that Bibi asked Trump during their first meeting
...and what did he say?
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« Reply #9074 on: May 31, 2018, 05:04:55 PM »
...and what did he say?
Probably Lets see if we can get the bigger things done first. So far, so good.
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« Reply #9075 on: May 31, 2018, 05:08:33 PM »
Probably Lets see if we can get the bigger things done first. So far, so good.
How does Obama feel about it?
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« Reply #9077 on: May 31, 2018, 05:11:06 PM »
How does Obama feel about it?
Who cares

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« Reply #9078 on: May 31, 2018, 05:13:59 PM »
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