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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #9280 on: July 27, 2018, 02:38:20 PM »
it seems that nobody knows the answer to your question lol

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« Reply #9281 on: July 28, 2018, 09:33:50 PM »
Dear guests of The Camping Trip 2018,
This message is coming from Chani Halberstam and Yehudis (Jude) Keller, the organizers of this event. We decided to be completely transparent with you as to what happened on Friday, July 27. Here is a little background:
Three weeks ago, we got called to help plan the event. We knew there were legal struggles, but were assured that permits were being finalized and that The Camping Trip would legally operate. Those legal things were never taken care of. Permits were not issued, and the property owner was prohibited from any musical production, food vending, ticket selling, promoting, or mass parking on his property. This was a Supreme Court Order, and the property owner chose not to tell us, the event organizers, or anyone else that the event was illegal. There is no money for refunds, or to pay artists, vendors, and staff who were lied to.
We are so sorry. We promoted this event. We sold you expensive tickets. We hired you. We promised you The Camping Trip Shabbat and music festival. We are so sorry this happened to you.
This is the end of The Camping Trip. Thank you for being supportive throughout the years and giving it a legacy. The Camping Trip’s goal was to bring Jews together for a beautiful Shabbat and music experience.
Thank you and we hope you understand.

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« Reply #9282 on: July 28, 2018, 09:55:26 PM »
Dear guests of The Camping Trip 2018,
This message is coming from Chani Halberstam and Yehudis (Jude) Keller, the organizers of this event. We decided to be completely transparent with you as to what happened on Friday, July 27. Here is a little background:
Three weeks ago, we got called to help plan the event. We knew there were legal struggles, but were assured that permits were being finalized and that The Camping Trip would legally operate. Those legal things were never taken care of. Permits were not issued, and the property owner was prohibited from any musical production, food vending, ticket selling, promoting, or mass parking on his property. This was a Supreme Court Order, and the property owner chose not to tell us, the event organizers, or anyone else that the event was illegal. There is no money for refunds, or to pay artists, vendors, and staff who were lied to.
We are so sorry. We promoted this event. We sold you expensive tickets. We hired you. We promised you The Camping Trip Shabbat and music festival. We are so sorry this happened to you.
This is the end of The Camping Trip. Thank you for being supportive throughout the years and giving it a legacy. The Camping Trip’s goal was to bring Jews together for a beautiful Shabbat and music experience.
Thank you and we hope you understand.
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« Reply #9283 on: July 28, 2018, 11:32:56 PM »

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« Reply #9284 on: July 28, 2018, 11:55:11 PM »
You anti semite!

ETA: /s
In that case let me continue.  :)
If there is no money to pay anyone then were did all the cash go for the expensive tickets they sold. This makes Sungames look like a bargain.  :P
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« Reply #9285 on: July 29, 2018, 08:50:47 AM »
This should be stickied at the top of every single JS thread.

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« Reply #9286 on: July 29, 2018, 10:44:53 AM »
This should be stickied at the top of every single JS thread.

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Don’t we “appeal to authority” whenever we quote a Gadol as proof for a position?

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« Reply #9287 on: July 29, 2018, 01:01:46 PM »
Don’t we “appeal to authority” whenever we quote a Gadol as proof for a position?
Kind of ironic when some accuse me of that (appeal to authority), no?  :)
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« Reply #9288 on: July 29, 2018, 01:34:34 PM »
Kind of ironic when some accuse me of that (appeal to authority), no?  :)
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When have you seen me making such an appeal to authority?
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« Reply #9290 on: July 29, 2018, 01:53:32 PM »
When have you seen me making such an appeal to authority?
That is not what I asked.  >:(
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« Reply #9291 on: July 29, 2018, 01:57:08 PM »
That is not what I asked.  >:(
So then what is the irony that has to do with me?
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« Reply #9292 on: July 29, 2018, 01:58:57 PM »
So then what is the irony that has to do with me?
Your life is based on "appeal to authority", no?
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« Reply #9293 on: July 29, 2018, 02:03:39 PM »
Your life is based on "appeal to authority", no?
no, but in general everyone's life is based on some level of trust those who are greater experts than you such as seeking advise from doctors, lawyers,  etc. That is not appeal to authority. Appeal to authority is to use that as a logical argument. To say that one will do abc medical procedure  because Dr so-and-so recommends it is fully logical, but to use it as an argument to someone who is saying that it is incorrect is an appeal to authority.
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« Reply #9294 on: July 29, 2018, 02:04:31 PM »
This should be stickied at the top of every single JS thread.

https://i.redd.it/3czeoix9rqc11.jpg
I've posted that numerous times in this forum.
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« Reply #9295 on: July 29, 2018, 02:08:40 PM »
no,
OK I guess I am confused then.
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« Reply #9296 on: July 29, 2018, 02:17:33 PM »
OK I guess I am confused then.
Appeal to authority and to defer to an expert are not the same thing.
To defer to an expert is to say CM is the expert on WF points and I am going to defer to him since I do not know as much about them.
An appeal to authority is to say I am going to prove to you that this is the case with WF points since CM said so.

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/21/Appeal-to-Authority
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« Reply #9297 on: July 29, 2018, 02:20:14 PM »
Appeal to authority and to defer to an expert are not the same thing.
I understand that. If I defer to the Popes ruling on what should be done isn't that both?
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« Reply #9298 on: July 29, 2018, 02:21:56 PM »
I understand that. If I defer to the Popes ruling on what should be done isn't that both?
No since you are not using it to prove anything. You are saying that he knows more about Catholicism than you do and therefore I am not going to make an argument at all and just defer to his expertise. Appeal to authority is when you use it to prove something.
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« Reply #9299 on: July 29, 2018, 02:25:33 PM »
No since you are not using it to prove anything.
Sure I am just as others do here. You must do X because this is what Y said/ruled.
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