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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #10306 on: August 22, 2019, 12:25:23 PM »
This is from May: https://www.ijf.org/news/show/iranian-noc-to-comply-with-the-olympic-charter

Just some quick background:
- Iran refuses to play Israel in any world judo match at any level.
- They've be warned by the International Judo Federation that it won't be tolerated
- Earlier this year, after Abu Dhabi relented to allow Israelis to compete under IJF Pressure, they played two games - Mollaei, the #1 in the world, "threw" his match against a Kazakh player, so that he wouldn't have to face an Israeli (Sagi Muki) in the gold medal match. He then went on to win Bronze, but claimed Injury so he wouldn't need to be on the podium while Hatikvah was played.
- The IJF threw the book at them, and the letter above is their response.
- Ironically, the letter is signed by Arash Mirasmaelli, the President of the Iranian Judo Federation, who as the world #1, famously weighed in 2lbs overweight during the 2008 Olympics in Beijing, so he wouldn't have to play his first round match against Israeli Ehud Vaks

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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #10308 on: August 22, 2019, 02:22:01 PM »
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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #10309 on: August 22, 2019, 05:24:06 PM »
And now a video message

https://www.kikar.co.il/abroad/328165.html

Pretty confusing. When he says "אשתי" who is he referring to?

Also, in the beginning be says it's not true that I agreed to give a get and in the end he says I already gave it, and it's waiting for her...
« Last Edit: August 22, 2019, 05:27:45 PM by zh cohen »

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« Reply #10310 on: August 22, 2019, 10:53:04 PM »
Pretty confusing. When he says "אשתי" who is he referring to?

Also, in the beginning be says it's not true that I agreed to give a get and in the end he says I already gave it, and it's waiting for her...
still אשתי because she never went to pick it up

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« Reply #10311 on: August 23, 2019, 10:23:32 AM »
https://www.israelhayom.com/2019/08/23/iranian-team-to-skip-world-judo-championship-to-avoid-competing-against-israelis/

This is from May: https://www.ijf.org/news/show/iranian-noc-to-comply-with-the-olympic-charter

Just some quick background:
- Iran refuses to play Israel in any world judo match at any level.
- They've be warned by the International Judo Federation that it won't be tolerated
- Earlier this year, after Abu Dhabi relented to allow Israelis to compete under IJF Pressure, they played two games - Mollaei, the #1 in the world, "threw" his match against a Kazakh player, so that he wouldn't have to face an Israeli (Sagi Muki) in the gold medal match. He then went on to win Bronze, but claimed Injury so he wouldn't need to be on the podium while Hatikvah was played.
- The IJF threw the book at them, and the letter above is their response.
- Ironically, the letter is signed by Arash Mirasmaelli, the President of the Iranian Judo Federation, who as the world #1, famously weighed in 2lbs overweight during the 2008 Olympics in Beijing, so he wouldn't have to play his first round match against Israeli Ehud Vaks

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« Last Edit: August 23, 2019, 12:43:24 PM by ExGingi »
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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #10319 on: August 29, 2019, 01:25:42 PM »
How about comments from me? Would that suffice?
My original point and still is that violence against all minorities do not get the outcry they deserve. Translation: Nobody cares.
This position is trying to be twisted into I don't believe this is happening against Jews.

Firstly, I don't think anyone here thinks you don't believe what is happening. What we are arguing about is the type of response different hate crimes get.

For example: a (Jewish) NYT editor, Jonathan Weissman, wrote a book about anti-Semitism. In the book he writes disparaging comments about Orthodox Jews and stereotypes them. Literal anti-Semitism in a book about anti-Semitism. If I'm not mistaken, he was also behind printing yellow stars next to Jewish legislators when the NYT listed who was for or against the Iran deal. All this was ok, but he got demoted when he tweeted that he thought someone was white based on their picture when she was actually black.

Yesterday, when the article that I posted was published, 85% of the responses by non-Orthodox Jews were saying the Orthodox Jews basically deserve it that no one cares because they don't care about anyone else. A 63 year old got his face smashed by a gigantic brick that could have killed him and people shouldn't care because Orthodox Jews "are too sheltered".

NYC has seen dozens of violent attacks on Jews this year, in addition to hundreds of bias incidents. Bill DeBlasio promised a specialized task force to deal with it moths ago. Nothing has happened. But, Al Sharpton has a senior advisory role in his administration, the same Al Sharpton who incited multiple murders. Bill DeBlasio is Jewish.

Take a poll of the average American and ask them who is more likely to be attacked in a hate crime in America:
1) A Muslim
2) An Hispanic Immigrant
3) A Jew

*You* know what the real answer is. But anyone who gets their info from MSM would think that Jews are only on that list because of 8chan White Supremacists, without knowing that not only is the correct answer #3, but the vast majority of American Anti-Semitic attacks come from African Americans and Hispanic individuals.

Do you know what it is like to go to a zoo with your children and have people grab their kids and scurry away from you muttering about "Jews having measles", or screaming at you that you should not bring your "disease ridden children" out in public? This happens every day to us.

Maybe this is why you call out Trump on his anti-Semitic remarks and certain others that don't have your exposure will not?
I didn't think you would help prove my point.  :)
You clearly missed the point where I said I am NOT an exception. (Well, no one else here grew up in Nebraska, though Dan's wife comes from KC - close enough)

And you can't compare Trump's anti-Semitism to real world anti-Semitism. Trump is bad, sure, but that is all anyone ever talks about in the media - "tropes" and "language". Meanwhile people are literally getting their heads smashed in. The main point is that visibly Jewish people get attacked on a daily basis and no one else knows about it or cares. They think that anti-Semitisim is about Trump winking at his Alt-Right base when in actuality it's about men, women and children getting accosted on the streets of New York, or a dozen towns villainizing Jews and trying to stop them from moving in.

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