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[drosenberg88429]

How about a blind taste test. 
I will put Lawry's or Ruth's Chris against the best kosher steak house.

What does a steak cost in these places? Just curious.

[CountValentine]

Why bother? It is pretty obvious that non-kosher beef tastes better for quite obvious reasons (which are scientifically explained in the research published).

You going to believe an article or your taste buds. 

[ExGingi]

You going to believe an article or your taste buds. 

I will trust you in a blind test. Also don't forget that the non-kosher version might have some butter on it.

[drosenberg88429]

How about a blind taste test. 
I will put Lawry's or Ruth's Chris against the best kosher steak house.

Looks like $56 and $64 for a classic ribeye in these places, compared to about $78 average for kosher NYC steakhouse.

Do those numbers sound approximately accurate?

[CountValentine]

What does a steak cost in these places? Just curious.

[CountValentine]

I will trust you in a blind test. Also don't forget that the non-kosher version might have some butter on it.

Some? 
They cook it in butter.

[CountValentine]

Looks like $56 and $64 for a classic ribeye in these places, compared to about $78 average for kosher NYC steakhouse.

Do those numbers sound approximately accurate?

Yes. I had steaks at two different kosher restaurants. They were good and I would order them again. Of course, they were more expensive, but the bigger issue was the portions were small.

[drosenberg88429]

Yes. I had steaks at two different kosher restaurants. They were good and I would order them again. Of course, they were more expensive, but the bigger issue was the portions were small.

I was assuming 16oz a portion for ribeye, although not all places specify portion sizes. (I gave the wrong number for Ruth's - I wrote price for 24oz, not 16oz. Should've written $58.)

[CountValentine]

I was assuming 16oz a portion for ribeye,

Is that the size for most kosher steakhouses? The two I had didn't seem that size.

[aygart]

Is that the size for most kosher steakhouses? The two I had didn't seem that size.

I wonder if the salt makes them heavier.

[CountValentine]

I wonder if the salt makes them heavier.

Kosher salt is bigger. Only thing I will use in my prime rib rub. 

[moko]

How is higher quality determined? Is 90% ground beef higher quality than 80% ground beef? Which hamburger would taste better?

utter blasphemy. 80/20 definitely better, for chuck, that is.

[aygart]

Kosher salt is bigger. Only thing I will use in my prime rib rub. 

The difference would be that the raw kosher meat is already salted before it gets weighed.

[CountValentine]

The difference would be that the raw kosher meat is already salted before it gets weighed.

Didn't know that. So, I am actually getting less kosher meat? 

[Zalc]

Didn't know that. So, I am actually getting less kosher meat? 

You should be getting more with kosher as the non kosher beef will have a higher % of water as compared to the salted koshered beef.

The difference is probably minuscule due to the salting duration especially for cuts of beef at the center of a carcass (E.G. Rib Eye)

[Zalc]

Why bother? It is pretty obvious that non-kosher beef tastes better for quite obvious reasons (which are scientifically explained in the research published).

I’m not so sure…
This is from the summary of the study:
 “Koshered beef is characterized by decreased adhesiveness, gumminess, and chewiness. Hence, for a consumer who is not a religious Jew, koshered beef might not be an appealing product. However, in both muscles studied, the koshering process had a positive effect on tenderness, juiciness, and palatability. “

Seems that the effects are somewhat mixed.

Kosher meat might be less “appealing” at the counter as it will feel softer and look less colorful.
But the taste once cooked is comparatively better.

This study seemed mostly to focus on “appeal” in the technical sense, such as how many ppl will buy when the raw meat is placed on a supermarket shelf, and not “appeal” as in “it is a better eating experience?”.

But leave it up to the news sites to miss the whole point of the study in search of clicks.

[Moshe Green]

In short, while I'm guessing that a $7 kosher burger (or whatever cheapest fast food burger goes for) is higher quality than a $2.49 McDonald's burger, I'm also guessing that a $7 non kosher burger in a restaurant is better than the kosher option. Complete conjecture though.

+1
The only way to really know is to do a DDF poll.

[Yehuda57]

In short, while I'm guessing that a $7 kosher burger (or whatever cheapest fast food burger goes for) is higher quality than a $2.49 McDonald's burger, I'm also guessing that a $7 non kosher burger in a restaurant is better than the kosher option. Complete conjecture though.

I would strongly doubt this. Having spoken to people who have done work with McDonalds in various capacities, their attention to detail and strict enforcement of policies  and standards is remarkable. I would guess the quality of their meat is far better than any kosher (or non-kosher non-chain) fast food. They are not cheap because of a lack of quality, they are cheap because of scale and efficiency.

[Yehudaa]

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[CountValentine]

I would strongly doubt this. Having spoken to people who have done work with McDonalds in various capacities, their attention to detail and strict enforcement of policies  and standards is remarkable. I would guess the quality of their meat is far better than any kosher (or non-kosher non-chain) fast food. They are not cheap because of a lack of quality, they are cheap because of scale and efficiency.

What is amazing is the consistent taste across the country. A 1/4 ponder tastes the same in Chicago as it does in LA.