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« Reply #707 on: April 10, 2013, 08:06:57 PM »
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« Reply #708 on: April 10, 2013, 08:12:55 PM »
Not sure why the more mainstream chabad news sites haven't been covering this, but wow, just wow.

http://www.chabadinfo.com/index.php?url=article_en&id=30590
http://www.chabadinfo.com/index.php/jq/js/jq/css/ui-lightness/includes/tguva_popup.php?url=article_en&id=30592

Awful. And the not the first I've heard of this. The worst part is once you've been accused most people will always wander if it was true or not no matter what happens after.
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« Reply #710 on: April 10, 2013, 09:50:52 PM »
Not sure why the more mainstream chabad news sites haven't been covering this, but wow, just wow.

http://www.chabadinfo.com/index.php?url=article_en&id=30590
http://www.chabadinfo.com/index.php/jq/js/jq/css/ui-lightness/includes/tguva_popup.php?url=article_en&id=30592
Very sad, but hardly shocking.
I'm a first hand witness to hearing a teen tell kid "if you want to ruin so and so's life accuse him of molesting you"(Bh he didnt go through with it) I mentioned this to a prominent child rights activist, and he responded "loshon hara"
Without taking sides in any story, it does make me wonder about others
Quote from: chabadinfo.com
It must be mentioned that there is Halachic authority obligating public notification of an individual who poses a potential communal threat. Harav Elchonon Tauber of CA has paskened that the verse “Lifnei ever lo siten michshol” imposes an affirmative obligation to report any knowledge of alleged abuse to both the authorities and the community.  This Halachic obligation does not have a “conviction” requirement, rather, an accusation is sufficient to trigger this responsibility.

Rav Tauber’s greatest example is if someone is rumored to be poisoning the food in a school, would we hesitate to remove this person from the school? Or would we begin to conduct investigations to challenge the veracity of the accusers? Of course we remove the person immediately. Somehow when the word "abuse" is involved, people get uncomfortable. "Abuse" = murder. If a person was an "alleged" murderer, would we hesitate to notify the community?
if such a person would be found innocent, the apology would deff. be much stronger and heartfelt and it would hardly ruin his life like this

side note: this belongs in the Tragic articles thread
« Last Edit: April 10, 2013, 09:59:05 PM by moko »

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« Reply #713 on: April 10, 2013, 11:12:51 PM »
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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #715 on: April 11, 2013, 09:32:34 AM »
Very sad, but hardly shocking.
I'm a first hand witness to hearing a teen tell kid "if you want to ruin so and so's life accuse him of molesting you"(Bh he didnt go through with it) I mentioned this to a prominent child rights activist, and he responded "loshon hara"
Without taking sides in any story, it does make me wonder about others if such a person would be found innocent, the apology would deff. be much stronger and heartfelt and it would hardly ruin his life like this

side note: this belongs in the Tragic articles thread

To me it's not even so much about an apology (although obviously that would be the proper thing to do). The same way they feel the obligation to publicize when someone is accused or arrested, they should feel an obligation to clear the name of an innocent and publicize that he was cleared. It's possible that they don't believe he's innocent, but that's a whole separate issue.

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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #716 on: April 11, 2013, 09:35:30 AM »
It's possible that they don't believe he's innocent, but that's a whole separate issue.
Would anyone be OK with this guy around their kids?
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« Reply #717 on: April 11, 2013, 09:37:11 AM »
Would anyone be OK with this guy around their kids?

If I didn't know him and just based off the story? Honestly, no. That's what is so awful in these situations. He may be innocent but why would I take the chance?
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« Reply #718 on: April 11, 2013, 09:37:14 AM »
Its crazy that anyone with a computer has the power to ruin a persons life. Write a stupid blog and your rantings will spread like wildfire as if its the most reliable source. There has to be some kind of accountability imo

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« Reply #719 on: April 11, 2013, 09:38:22 AM »
Its crazy that anyone with a computer has the power to ruin a persons life. Write a stupid blog and your rantings will spread like wildfire as if its the most reliable source. There has to be some kind of accountability imo

Even if there was accountability I don't believe it would help as much as we'd like to think. Because like I said in the end of the day once that doubt has been put into peoples minds its hard to get it out.
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