Next Vatican - Ideas

[yawn]

ie. Showing compassion for a kosher meat kingpin is uncompassionate for the children that worked for him.
Am I getting this right? 

Pretty sure he was acquitted of those charges. You wanna be compassionate to the banks, go ahead.

[Jellybelly]

@CountValentine would you by any chance know who killed your namesake?😜

[ckmk47]

ie. Showing compassion for a kosher meat kingpin is uncompassionate for the children that worked for him.
Am I getting this right? 

If you're implying that he exploited children that had no choice but to work for him, I probably agree.

[CountValentine]

@CountValentine would you by any chance know who killed your namesake?😜

RCC because his mind was polluted by another religion?

[justaregularguy]

Cool video  (it has nothing to do with the title)
https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/israel-news/2389920/liberal-pope-francis-has-died-repeatedly-called-for-genocide-investigation-into-israel.html

not to take this convo off topic, but I read this title partially as ‘liberal pope Francis has died repeatedly’

[justaregularguy]

At risk of being called a "hater"...
If you know ANYTHING about the history of the catholic church, you would know that all the "shocking" abuse scandals that have "rocked" the church over the last couple of decades - are a feature, not a bug.
The church has never been a paragon of virtue and morals.

just when I finished the last of the popcorn
Going to make some more

[YitzyS]

just when I finished the last of the popcorn
Going to make some more

[Chester7]

I would think it to be disrespectful to CV to make fun of his death. Your thoughts on him notwithstanding.

As an aside, @CountValentine do you look at groups like BB talking about Catholics in the way we look at JVP talking about Israel?

[Dan]

I would think it to be disrespectful to CV to make fun of his death. Your thoughts on him notwithstanding.

As an aside, @CountValentine do you look at groups like BB talking about Catholics in the way we look at JVP talking about Israel?

BB posts weekly that Catholics should go to church.
Does JVP do the same about going to shul?

[YitzyS]

I would think it to be disrespectful to CV to make fun of his death. Your thoughts on him notwithstanding.

That's a very fair point.

CV, my apologies if I was insensitive by making jokes on the death of someone you admire and respect.

[Chester7]

BB posts weekly that Catholics should go to church.
Does JVP do the same about going to shul?

I don't know much about Catholicism, but Judaism is definitely about a lot more than going to Shul. Just because someone says to go to shul, that would not mean I want them to be the spokesman for Judaism.

[Dan]

I don't know much about Catholicism, but Judaism is definitely about a lot more than going to Shul. Just because someone says to go to shul, that would not mean I want them to be the spokesman for Judaism.

Someone who goes to Church or Shul regularly is much more likely to be in touch with their religion than someone who does not.

[Jellybelly]

Someone who goes to Church or Shul regularly is much more likely to be in touch with their religion than someone who does not.

Unless you’re a woman

[CountValentine]

The Pope is the religious leader off a billion+. Does he have his faults, yes. Afterall he is only human.

There is not much that shocks me, but I was completely shocked by the posts of certain members.

I do understand why there would be hate based on the RCC history. The only problem is that is not him.

Should every black person hate every withe person based on the history of this country?

[Just A Jew]

Someone who goes to Church regularly is much more likely to be touched than someone who does not.

Sorry, that's way over the line. Way too far. We should stick to bad Xtian on Xtain humor.

[Just A Jew]

The Pope is the religious leader off a billion+. Does he have his faults, yes. Afterall he is only human.

There is not much that shocks me, but I was completely shocked by the posts of certain members.

I do understand why there would be hate based on the RCC history. The only problem is that is not him.

Should every black person hate every withe person based on the history of this country?

I don't see anyone here hating on him, as an individual. They are just viewing the position he held irreverently, which you can understand, given the history.

[imayid2]

I do understand why there would be hate based on the RCC history. The only problem is that is not him.

Should every black person hate every withe person based on the history of this country?

A better analogy would be if black people should hate the President of the Confederacy if it still existed but no longer advocated slavey.

[Jellybelly]

I think when people here think of the Vatican, there is a certain amount of hatred that we have for the institution based in the history of what has happened to the Jews over the years. And this person was the head of the Vatican. That being said, I don’t think the average Jew has the same hatred for their neighbors and people they see on the street.

[Chuchum Ainer]

Judaism: The official religion of hate!!! 

What was shocking was seeing certain members thinking it was OK to post such things.
Do I believe that Judaism is the religion of hate, of course not.

Why oh why do people take the bait? 

[yfr bachur]

The Pope is the religious leader off a billion+. Does he have his faults, yes. Afterall he is only human.

There is not much that shocks me, but I was completely shocked by the posts of certain members.

I do understand why there would be hate based on the RCC history. The only problem is that is not him.

There's a few points going one here. which sort of mix into one another

A. The History of the church. This affects how jews see it, and its actions now. just bec 60ish years ago they decided to change some stuff doesn't erase its history, which is very far from being a religion of peace and compassion. The Pope lecturing Jews (or anyone!)  about morality and peace has the ring of the CEO of ExxonMobil lecturing Eskimoes about climate change. His org has too much bloody baggage for him to even venture into opining on such things.

B. His leadership. The death of any leader gives occasion to analyze the sum of his leadership, which in this case was decently controversial. Both with regards to internal Church teachings, and his international relations.

C. The emotional reaction of the faithful. Honestly, prob WAY less than you make it out to be. He was not pontiff for ages and ages (that people would have a emotion connection as "the only pope they've ever known"), he made controversial and divisive changes to church theology.... True, he's a darling of the left - but those are the less religious parts of society, especially in the english speaking world.