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Re: TR: Pesach to the US with family
« Reply #40 on: May 08, 2025, 07:22:05 PM »

Kids woke up very late and between everybody, the meal started around chatzos. (At least I didn't have to worry about eating the next seudah with an appetite.) Between that and the Mincha right before shkiyah at Beis Sofrim, we were able to rest some more and I got another solid seder in.
Before second seder, I made havdala in my room with my family. I reviewed the halachos of the seder (for bnei EY) with them, and it was by far the best and most relaxed "seder" I had. In a nutshell:
-must have in mind that we are saying shevach vhodaah but not being yotzei vehigadeta
-no extra berachos (no al achilas or asher gealanu or yehalelucha)
-Although my family is generally yotzei with the kiddush of the one leading the seder, we couldn't be yotzei this time because asher bachar banu is a hefsek, so we had to make our own hagafens after
-no need to drink or eat anything more than the smallest shiur 
-didn't bother being makpid on chatzos or being careful to eat the afikoman with an appetite


Same chavrusa for each seder? ;)
Btw, we we also had a ben EY at the second seder, first two kosos was wine, then he switched to water.. Didn't follow the rest if it was done right according to your well researched structure.  :)


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Re: TR: Pesach to the US with family
« Reply #41 on: May 09, 2025, 02:45:42 AM »
Same chavrusa for each seder? ;)
Btw, we we also had a ben EY at the second seder, first two kosos was wine, then he switched to water.. Didn't follow the rest if it was done right according to your well researched structure.  :)
If by "water," you mean grape juice...
The first and only other time I did this (2016), I didn't really follow those rules like I should have.
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Re: TR: Pesach to the US D16-19
« Reply #42 on: May 12, 2025, 06:05:07 AM »
Days 16-19
Despite our best efforts, we didn't really set out on the drive until 1ish, maybe even later. I still remember packing and repacking the car to fit the bags of food and clothes we needed and then starting again when three more bags were produced.
First part of the drive was uneventful. We arrived in Lakewood about 3:30 or so. This was a scheduled stop - we had always planned on it as part of the trip. We had an early seudas Chol Hamoed at my aunt and uncle's house. My father's brother, he should be well, was physically impaired but K"H his brain was as sharp as ever (he moved there from my grandfather A"H's house in Far Rockaway a bunch of years back to live near his many children who are in the Lakewood area). A cousin who was originally living in Sanhedria Murchevet also came for the meal with his family and a nephew of mine who was visiting there. We also took the opportunity to daven minchah. I enjoyed how long this Lakewood "minyan factory," Kol Shimshon, took to daven.
We continued on our way around 6ish, arriving in Baltimore after one stop (the last rest stop on the NJ Turnpike, which somehow took twenty minutes) around 9:30 or so. I'm sure there must have been horrible traffic but I was sleeping so I don't know for sure. And of course, we davened Maariv at Merkaz Torah UTefilah (Rabbi Eichenstein's), a place that gave us Scheiners vibes (down to the tents). I ended up davening there every weekday, because they were in walking distance and the first minyan there got to Shemoneh Esrei very shortly after netz (I simply davened ahead). Ran into people from Sanhedria Murchevet and people from my chaburah in the Mir.
We were hosted by my sister, who has been living there for many years (ten? maybe not that long). My brother from Florida had come up with his family for the entire Yom Tov and was staying by my parents, who own a house in Baltimore and plan to move there from Monsey. We spent YT together as three families plus my parents. After I got back from Shacharis, and as the only one awake, I accompanied my sister (the host) to drop off her two boys for davening and then to stock up at Seven Mile Market (according to marketing, the largest frum store in the world, though not seven miles large - and I'm sceptical, but they are probably close). We did the same kind of stock up we always seemed to do - a huge amount of milchigs, special fruit and veggies, a mountain of bananas, some dips, lots of chicken and three cases of bottled water. Costs seemed somewhere between Bingo and Evergreen, and obviously, the selection was somewhat less, but they seemed well stocked with everything.
Managed a trip to two wine stores (Quarry and I forget the other), neither of which had too much Jewish stock, and Shabsi's seforim store, which could have passed for any seforim store in the tri-state area.
Later in the day, we went to Quarry lake and met my wife's cousins who live in Baltimore. (One of them told me a story about when he tried to buy stone for his garden when Quarry Lake was still a quarry. They told him that they weigh the trucks before and after and charge for the difference. Problem was that when he filled up his four-seater, the difference didn't register on the scale at all! After some discussion among themselves, he was charged a dollar.)
Indirect thanks to DDF - I purchased a copy of TTR for them as a YT present, and it was definitely a hit. (They already owned Europe. I also got Europe for my Floridian brother.)
YT, we mostly davened in Agudah of Greesnsprings. On first day of YT, my brother-in-law and I walked to Rav Heineman's shul for netz - about forty minutes or so. B"H the cousins got along famously. A splendid time was had by all.
YT Sheni, we made havdalah in the basement where we were sleeping without aish, and then we were yotzei aish during my brother-in-law's yaknehaz kiddush. (Once again, I cautioned my kids that they could not be yotzei with the host's hagafen.) As I was anyways davening netz, it didn't really matter that I was putting on tefillin in the basement, and I got in a good seder during davening at the Greensprings Agudah.
"Rumpeling" was done at lightning speed thanks to all the kids who preferred helping versus going to sleep. However, the meal that night was still Pesachdik (I'm sure there was chometz to be had, but we didn't bother to eat it when there was great Pesach leftovers.)
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Re: TR: Pesach to the US D20-21
« Reply #43 on: Yesterday at 06:02:45 AM »
After davening in the first minyan at Rabbi Eichenstein, I came home to a quiet house. As the weather was that perfect mix of temperature and breeze for walking, I decided to walk to Seven Mile and stock up on chometz. I wrote down the Google Maps directions (~2.5 miles - NOT SEVEN as advertised  >:() and was about to leave when my 11YO asked if she could come. I was happy to agree because I always try to reward her for being dressed and having davened early. My 21YO niece also decided this was a great idea (negating the need for directions), and my 11YO spent the walk happily chattering away with her. ("Is a "hump" the same as a "bump"?") It took around 40 minutes. (We're all big walkers.) We picked up fresh bagels and even some pitas, got another mountain of bananas, and some kitniyos for the GFers (the buckwheat cakes were a hit). (I called my sister from the store to ask if she needed anything, and she said it was okay, she would do her own shopping later. She later told me that it never occurred to her that we were calling from Seven Mile - she thought we were in one of the non-Jewish stores closer by...) On our way out of the parking lot, a lady who knew my niece from work offered us a ride home, which we wouldn't have needed but it was starting to rain...
After a very satisfying breakfast, my parents took us to see their house, which was also where my brother from Florida is staying. It's a very fancy place in a gated collection of apartment buildings. Even though we were only there for two hours, my 4YO managed to shatter a glass pane by walking into it (he wasn't running, DW says). HE was fine, if a bit startled, B"H.
We left Baltimore after Minchah, stopping at a Pizza store in Monsey for supper just before they were about to close (we called ahead to be sure). Then we went across the street to Amazing Savings, where my kids picked out a combo afikoman present+present from Bubby (and for 11YO, a birthday present, which she had saved to shop "in America where they have other things" - though she didn't find anything...).

DW and kids stayed in Monsey on Tuesday (my parents both had work). My Monsey sister and one of her married kids took them out to eat and to the latter's house, where they had a blast (based on the pictures I saw). I took the B&H bus to Manhattan with my father, where I met a brother who also works there and a few other acquaintances. I then took the train (gasp!) into Brooklyn and got a Bagel Hole breakfast (this cost me exactly double what it had cost the last time I had it.) Got in a seder at the Mir as well as said goodbye to Rav Osher Kalmanowitz. Spent some time at the library clearing out my inbox and feeds. Then I went back to Boro Park and returned my phone rental, meeting a brother for an early supper at China Glatt (just the two of us shmoozing about life like old times) and catching the 7PM Monsey bus back.
After Maariv at Rabbi Scheiner's, we did some preliminary moving of belongings and went to sleep.

Lakewood Minyan Factory https://www.godaven.com/shul-details/852/kol-shimshon
https://www.newjerseyrestareas.com/nj-njtp-new-jersey-turnpike-clara-barton-service-plaza-southbound-mile-marker-5/

Baltimore Minyan Factory https://www.mercaz.center/
Agudah of Greensprings https://aigreenspring.com/
Agudah of Baltimore https://www.agudah.com/
https://www.shopsevenmilemarket.com/
https://quarryws.com/shop/?category=kosher&srsltid=AfmBOoq8vIPk2wYq5OvvuCucaqwSi-VNqbeQytHw9KV45WSJdCIo5vtC
https://www.quarrylakeatgreenspring.com/

Rumpelnacht: https://www.thejewishstar.com/stories/rumpelnacht-after-pesach-chaos-in-reverse,13429 (Note that the opinion of the author may not match the opinion of the publication.)

Zeidy's Pizza https://web.curbngo.com/menu/1091/?key=r0Nydm9eIcKB02Ee%2BRQkLQ%3D%3D-1091
https://amazingsavings.com/locations/
https://www.monseytrails.com/
https://kosherbagelhole.com/
https://www.bklynlibrary.org/
https://chinaglatt.com/

From the first Brooklyn section of the TR
https://www.kosherhutofbrooklynmenu.com/
https://www.boropark24.com/news/boro-park-snapshot-hoffy-s-electronics/
https://theicecreamhouse.com/
Brooklyn Bus Map https://www.mta.info/document/12041
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Re: TR: Pesach to the US with family
« Reply #44 on: Yesterday at 07:40:08 AM »
I love every segment of this, despite there not being any pictures. I think even more than the actual information, there is something so alluring about the perspectives that mevinyavin infuses into every step of the narrative. It sounds like it would be a really fun and unique experience to be one of your children.

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Re: TR: Pesach to the US with family
« Reply #45 on: Yesterday at 08:16:17 AM »
It sounds like it would be a really fun and unique experience to be one of your children.
I'll tell my children that this was your psak, and therefore, they are mechuyev to be having fun and unique experiences on a regular basis.
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Re: TR: Pesach to the US with family
« Reply #46 on: Yesterday at 08:34:52 AM »
the dark and scary part which I know is coming. Baltimore.  :-\

Did it live up to your expectations?
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Re: TR: Pesach to the US with family
« Reply #47 on: Yesterday at 11:15:02 AM »
I love every segment of this, despite there not being any pictures. I think even more than the actual information, there is something so alluring about the perspectives that mevinyavin infuses into every step of the narrative.
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Re: TR: Pesach to the US with family
« Reply #48 on: Yesterday at 12:41:27 PM »
the dark and scary part which I know is coming. Baltimore.  :-\

Did it live up to your expectations?

I’ve lived in the NY Metro area my whole life and have actually never been to Baltimore. So thanks for your segment on that. I have an elderly friend there that I know I should visit with my kids, but have never been able to bring myself to give up a Sunday to do it.

But your entire TR reminds me of a conversation I once had with this very Israeli kid working the counter at his family's shawarma place in Bayit Vagan. He had been to the U.S. once and managed to hit every major tourist attraction—meanwhile, I haven’t been to most of them myself.
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Re: TR: Pesach to the US with family
« Reply #49 on: Yesterday at 02:43:55 PM »
I’ve lived in the NY Metro area my whole life and have actually never been to Baltimore.
Me, too, and neither had I until this trip. Frankly, there wasn't anyone to visit there until I acquired relatives with my marriage and then later when my sister moved there, but at that point we were in EY.

I have an elderly friend there that I know I should visit with my kids, but have never been able to bring myself to give up a Sunday to do it.
In my head growing up, it felt like much further away than it ended up being. And if you go entirely by train it may be even more painless.

But your entire TR reminds me of a conversation I once had with this very Israeli kid working the counter at his family's shawarma place in Bayit Vagan. He had been to the U.S. once and managed to hit every major tourist attraction—meanwhile, I haven’t been to most of them myself.
Well, we hit none of the tourist attractions.  8) We came to visit family, and when discussing the potential with my wife (when we knew it would need to be short because of the kids' school needs), we decided that we would catch who we can and not be worried about missing people or how short we would have with them. Facts are we made lots of people very happy, so mission accomplished. We didn't get everybody but we sure got a lot of people.
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Re: TR: Pesach to the US with family
« Reply #50 on: Today at 12:18:00 AM »
I’ve lived in the NY Metro area my whole life and have actually never been to Baltimore.
Same here. I went to Baltimore for the first time recently, for a wedding. And then I got a ticket in the mail for going over the speed limit in Delaware...

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« Reply #51 on: Today at 01:11:47 AM »
And then I got a ticket in the mail for going over the speed limit in Delaware...

Those rest area cameras are killer, especially when you spend a total of 15 minutes in the state.
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« Reply #52 on: Today at 01:16:30 AM »
Those rest area cameras are killer, especially when you spend a total of 15 minutes in the state.
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Re: TR: Pesach to the US with family
« Reply #53 on: Today at 09:08:56 AM »
Same here. I went to Baltimore for the first time recently, for a wedding. And then I got a ticket in the mail for going over the speed limit in Delaware...

Ouch. The one time I was caught by a camera was on the way to a wedding in Brooklyn (somewhere I rarely go these days - was over a year since I was there last) but I never got a ticket in the mail. That camera was right off the exit from the highway  >:(
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