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Re: Chase SP application - suspected fraud merry-go-round
« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2025, 11:17:58 PM »
What’s the phone number to call?
(800) 453-9719

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Re: Chase SP application - suspected fraud merry-go-round
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2025, 12:58:08 AM »
(800) 453-9719
That's for business cards.
For personal cards call 800-432-3117 (press # when they ask for card number)
If it benefits even just one fellow DDFer, its worth posting it.

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Re: Chase SP application - suspected fraud merry-go-round
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2025, 05:10:13 PM »
I'm gonna file a complaint. Hoping to get approved over them just taking off the inquiry!
I'll update here what happens
WAS APPROVED!

I got an email earlier today from Chase Executive Office that they received my complaint and that they would be reviewing the case and getting back to me shortly.

A few hours later I got an email that I was approved. Then I got a phone call a min after that from Chase Fraud Team asking for my wife (I put her on this time  ;)) letting me know that I was approved and could expect the card in a few days!

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Re: Chase SP application - suspected fraud merry-go-round
« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2025, 09:53:44 AM »
I'm gonna file a complaint. Hoping to get approved over them just taking off the inquiry!
I'll update here what happens
care to share how u filed the coplaint? is there an available link that u filled out w the info?

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Re: Chase SP application - suspected fraud merry-go-round
« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2025, 12:07:12 PM »
care to share how u filed the coplaint? is there an available link that u filled out w the info?
I wish it would have emailed me the copy of the complaint so I could post it here.

Also for some reason when I log in to track the complaint it says "no pending complaints". Maybe it was closed already and then it disappears? IDK...

Here's the link to the complaint page. you need to make an account. https://www.consumerfinance.gov/complaint/


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Re: Chase SP application - suspected fraud merry-go-round
« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2025, 12:09:02 PM »
I wish it would have emailed me the copy of the complaint so I could post it here.

Also for some reason when I log in to track the complaint it says "no pending complaints". Maybe it was closed already and then it disappears? IDK...

Here's the link to the complaint page. you need to make an account. https://www.consumerfinance.gov/complaint/
I also quoted the exact wording from the FCRA and demonstrated how they were in violation of it. Twice

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Re: Chase SP application - suspected fraud merry-go-round
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2025, 03:12:28 PM »
I also quoted the exact wording from the FCRA and demonstrated how they were in violation of it. Twice
@Shmueli Just wanted to thank you, I literally had the same story (I called about my wifes application, they sent me letters about suspected fraud, asked for verification, etc.) and while being local to Chase my wife was able to go into the branch and verify, there was radio silence from them after that. I followed what you did and sent in a complaint, and voila, today received an email that the application was approved! So thanks for that...

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Re: Chase SP application - suspected fraud merry-go-round
« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2025, 03:17:27 PM »
@Shmueli Just wanted to thank you, I literally had the same story (I called about my wifes application, they sent me letters about suspected fraud, asked for verification, etc.) and while being local to Chase my wife was able to go into the branch and verify, there was radio silence from them after that. I followed what you did and sent in a complaint, and voila, today received an email that the application was approved! So thanks for that...
Awesome, that's great!

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Re: Chase SP application - suspected fraud merry-go-round
« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2025, 07:31:18 PM »
I applied and got the suspected fraud letter a day later so I uploaded documents and haven’t heard back anything since then. What’s the timeframe for this? On my checking account it said that I was preapproved for this card before I applied…

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Re: Chase SP application - suspected fraud merry-go-round
« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2025, 07:40:58 PM »
I applied and got the suspected fraud letter a day later so I uploaded documents and haven’t heard back anything since then. What’s the timeframe for this? On my checking account it said that I was preapproved for this card before I applied…
I received the fraud letter maybe 5 or 6 days after uploading docs. Doesn't hurt to wait since the application will stay open for a while after submitting

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Re: Chase SP application - suspected fraud merry-go-round
« Reply #30 on: May 11, 2025, 02:23:34 PM »
@Shmueli  @iwlw2 How long was the turnaround time from you filed the complained till Chase contacted you?

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Re: Chase SP application - suspected fraud merry-go-round
« Reply #31 on: May 11, 2025, 02:32:11 PM »
2 days

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Re: Chase SP application - suspected fraud merry-go-round
« Reply #33 on: May 12, 2025, 09:13:40 PM »
Filed complain on May 9 received today email from Executive team that they are reviewing the complaint

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Re: Chase SP application - suspected fraud merry-go-round
« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2025, 12:31:50 AM »
Filed complain on May 9 received today email from Executive team that they are reviewing the complaint
Approved today my CC

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Re: Chase SP application - suspected fraud merry-go-round
« Reply #35 on: May 16, 2025, 10:26:26 AM »
I found The full complaint text that I filed as well as Chase's response and my feedback to their response.
Here it is. Excuse the length and lack of paragraph breaks (that got removed in their system).

YOUR COMPLAINT
Company Name: JPMorgan Chase Bank Product: Credit card (Chase Sapphire Preferred) Date of Application: Apr 6, 2025 Application Reference #
 1. Summary of the Complaint I applied for the Chase Sapphire Preferred credit card and, despite verifying that the application was legitimate, Chase repeatedly declined my application for alleged “fraud concerns,” refused to reinstate or properly investigate the application, and would not remove the resulting hard inquiry from my credit report. I believe Chase’s conduct violates the Fair Credit Reporting Act (FCRA) and has caused me financial and emotional harm. 2. What Happened & When Application Submitted Date: Apr 6, 2025 Detail: I applied online for a Chase Sapphire Preferred card. I have multiple existing Chase bank accounts in good standing. Initial Response "We'll review your Chase Sapphire Preferred Card application and be in touch soon." I then called them directly and the Chase representative told me it would take 7–10 business days to receive a response. Actual Response: A letter arrived within a few days stating: “We’re concerned someone may be using your information fraudulently and declined your application. If the application is valid, please contact us.” The letter then went on to describe how I can protect myself from fraud and identity theft. First Verification Attempt Action: I called Chase and informed them that I did in fact apply for this card ant the application is valid. I was told to upload documents to verify my identity. They sent me a secure email link, and I uploaded a recent statement (from a different US bank) with my full name and address, plus a government-issued ID (passport). Branch Visit: I also visited my local branch to have them fax copies directly to ensure receipt. The banker confirmed to me that the documents were received by the Chase Credit Card Application Department. Second Decline Detail: Received an identical letter of decline despite providing clear documentation. Second Verification Attempt Action: I called again. Agent said the application was “auto-declined by the system” and could not be revived, but I could reapply. When I asked why my documents failed, she refused to specify, citing privacy, but did re-send the upload link for me to try again. I also requested to have the hard inquiry removed from my account since I was supposedly "auto-declined" which means that Chase did not in fact have the right to pull my credit report, and if they did pull the report would be required to tell me in detailed fashion the reason from my decline (see legal basis below). The agent said she could not do that. I then uploaded new, clear, complete copies of a utility bill (with my name and address on it), and a very clear and full picture of my US passport including both the top and bottom pages. Third Decline Detail: Received an identical letter of decline (due to "fraud") despite providing clear documentation multiple times. Hard Inquiry Remains A hard inquiry appears on my credit report. I asked Chase to remove it; a representative refused. I did not authorize the inquiry under circumstances that comply with FCRA. 3. Legal Basis for Complaint A. Unauthorized Consumer Report Pull Under FCRA Section 604(a) of the FCRA permits a consumer reporting agency to furnish a credit report only if the recipient “intends to use the information in connection with a credit transaction involving the consumer” (15 U.S.C. § 1681b(a)(3)(A)). Chase’s auto-decline for “fraud concerns” without a bona fide investigation or intent to extend credit means they lacked a permissible purpose to pull my report. B. Failure to Provide Adverse Action Notice & Rights Under FCRA § 615(a) (15 U.S.C. § 1681m(a)), when a creditor takes adverse action based in whole or in part on a consumer report, they must: Provide notice of the adverse action (in writing or electronically). Disclose the credit score used, if any, and provide the disclosures required under § 609(f)(1). Chase did not supply any credit score, disclosures of report sources, or explanation of what in my report triggered a fraud concern. In other words... If Chase did in fact pull my report (which would indicate that the findings of the report caused them to believe that the application was fraudulent - i.e. they took adverse action based in part on info from my credit report), they would be required to explain in detail the reasons for being declined. Chase cannot continue to just say "fraud fraud" with no explanation whatsoever, and especially after I provided documentation to prove the application legitimate multiple times. 4. Harm Suffered Credit Impact: A hard inquiry on my credit file, which lowers my credit score. Denial of Credit: I remain unable to obtain a card I likely should have been approved for. Loss of Sign-Up Bonus: This card had a sign-up bonus offer off 100k Chase points after hitting a minimum spend requirement. By declining my card in violation of FCRA, I have lost out on the opportunity to earn those valuable points. Time & Effort: Multiple calls, uploads, and a branch visit yielded no resolution. Emotional Distress: Frustration and anxiety over identity theft allegations that are unsubstantiated.

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Re: Chase SP application - suspected fraud merry-go-round
« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2025, 10:28:38 AM »
Chase's non-apology...

Company's Response
Thank you for expressing your concerns to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. We appreciate you allowing us the opportunity to research this matter. We completed our review, and the details of our response are below. • We sent you a letter on April 6, 2025, to serve as notice that your application was automatically declined due to concerns that someone may have used your personal information to submit the application. We sent duplicate letters on April 16, 2025, and April 23, 2025, when we reviewed the application with the documents you sent in to verify your identity. • We sent a letter on April 21, 2025, as notice that the documents you had submitted previously to validate the application were illegible, expired or did not meet our requirements and asked you to send a copy of the letter with clear, easy-to-read copies of documents to validate. • We apologize for the inconvenience this may have caused but we take the security of your information very seriously and we have processes in place to monitor potential fraud. These processes continually change as we work to improve the protection of our clients. • We reviewed your application that was submitted on April 6, 2025, and called you on May 5, 2025, to inform you of the approved status, credit line and delivery time frame of the welcome packet with the card. • You requested to remove the inquiry from reporting but when you apply for a credit card online the Pricing and Terms information must be viewed before the application is submitted. Before we approve you for a credit card, we review your credit report and the information you provide with your response to confirm that you meet the criteria for this offer. Based on this review, you may receive a card with different costs, or you may not receive a card. • Information we send to the credit reporting agencies must accurately reflect your account activity and status. We won’t request the inquiry be removed because the information we supplied to the credit reporting agencies is accurate. • We appreciate the feedback you have provided about application security measures and have forwarded the suggestions to the appropriate parties for review. We take these matters seriously and are sorry we didn’t meet your expectations. We look forward to a continued business relationship, as well as providing you with the service that you expect. • We deny violating any laws or regulations outlined in your complaint. • The federal Equal Credit Opportunity Act prohibits creditors from discriminating against credit applicants on the basis of race, color, religion, national origin, sex, marital status, age (provided the applicant has the capacity to enter into a binding contract); because all or part of the applicant's income derives from any public assistance program; or because the applicant has in good faith exercised any right under the Consumer Credit Protection Act. The federal agency that administers compliance with this law concerning this creditor is the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, 1700 G Street NW, Washington, DC 20552.
DESCRIPTION OF NON-MONETARY RELIEF
Non-Monetary Relief of approving the application.

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Re: Chase SP application - suspected fraud merry-go-round
« Reply #37 on: May 16, 2025, 10:31:44 AM »
Your feedback
The company’s response addressed all of my issues
No
I understand the company’s response to my complaint
No
The company did what they said they would do with my complaint
Yes
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS
In JP Morgan Chase's response and they claim that despite sending in incredibly clear, crisp, and fully legible documents to verify my identity as well as going down to a Chase Bank branch in person, they were still unable to verify my identity due to my documents being something along the lines of "not legible or clear enough". That statement is completely false. They refuse to state precisely what the issue was with said documents and chose to simply give a vague statement about being unable to verify the documents despite me verifying multiple times. It seems as though there is some sort of glitch in there verification system that defaults to fraud even after a customer uploads verification documents. There is no other way to explain this. As far as removing the inquiry on my credit report... Immediately upon receipt of my complaint, I received the call from Chase that my credit card application was approved (which is when odd considering they were "unable to verify my identity") and also shockingly, coincidental timing just a couple of minutes after they received my complaint! 😃 I'm very happy they approved my credit card, and since it is approved I have no need for the inquiry into my credit report being removed. I would just appreciate if they would be honest and acknowledge that they made some sort of mistake by repeatedly claiming fraud despite me verifying myself multiple times. I personally know three other people who had this same exact issue where they kept receiving suspected fraud letters from Chase and were declined for this very credit card. I told them to file a complaint here, which they did, and surprisingly enough (not) they were approved days within days. There is definitely some issue with Chase's fraud prevention department that needs to be looked into and I wish they would have acknowledged that in their response instead of just approving me and pretending that it was my fault when it most definitely was not. I do appreciate them rectifying the situation by approving me and I thank them for that.

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Re: Chase SP application - suspected fraud merry-go-round
« Reply #38 on: May 16, 2025, 11:49:49 AM »
Your feedback
The company’s response addressed all of my issues
No
I understand the company’s response to my complaint
No
The company did what they said they would do with my complaint
Yes
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS
In JP Morgan Chase's response and they claim that despite sending in incredibly clear, crisp, and fully legible documents to verify my identity as well as going down to a Chase Bank branch in person, they were still unable to verify my identity due to my documents being something along the lines of "not legible or clear enough". That statement is completely false. They refuse to state precisely what the issue was with said documents and chose to simply give a vague statement about being unable to verify the documents despite me verifying multiple times. It seems as though there is some sort of glitch in there verification system that defaults to fraud even after a customer uploads verification documents. There is no other way to explain this. As far as removing the inquiry on my credit report... Immediately upon receipt of my complaint, I received the call from Chase that my credit card application was approved (which is when odd considering they were "unable to verify my identity") and also shockingly, coincidental timing just a couple of minutes after they received my complaint! 😃 I'm very happy they approved my credit card, and since it is approved I have no need for the inquiry into my credit report being removed. I would just appreciate if they would be honest and acknowledge that they made some sort of mistake by repeatedly claiming fraud despite me verifying myself multiple times. I personally know three other people who had this same exact issue where they kept receiving suspected fraud letters from Chase and were declined for this very credit card. I told them to file a complaint here, which they did, and surprisingly enough (not) they were approved days within days. There is definitely some issue with Chase's fraud prevention department that needs to be looked into and I wish they would have acknowledged that in their response instead of just approving me and pretending that it was my fault when it most definitely was not. I do appreciate them rectifying the situation by approving me and I thank them for that.
give it up

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Re: Chase SP application - suspected fraud merry-go-round
« Reply #39 on: May 16, 2025, 12:46:31 PM »
give it up
With that kind of mindset I wouldn't have gotten my wife approved (and have helped 3 others on DDF get approved too).