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Law school exams for yeshiva guys 101, by henche
1. Read the story. 
2. Write down all the taynas that anyone might have, and what taynas the other guy might have back, and what the halacha probably is. 
3. Hit "submit"
4. Get a job.
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Law School
« on: February 15, 2012, 04:35:54 PM »
I am applying for law school and currently writing a Diversity Statement and wondering if there is anyone that will possibly assist me by critiquing my statement and helping me?


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Re: Law School
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2012, 04:37:01 PM »
Search for the education master thread, consider PMing Henche.
Mod's can you please move it over?
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Re: Law School
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2012, 05:02:54 PM »
I am applying for law school and currently writing a Diversity Statement and wondering if there is anyone that will possibly assist me by critiquing my statement and helping me?


Send a PM and Ill take a look

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Re: Law School
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2012, 11:46:18 AM »
Anyone considering law school should look at these rankings from Above the Law
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Re: Law School
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2012, 12:36:18 PM »
Touro > Fordham jobs-wise?

Uhh, somehow that doesn't seem right.
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Re: Law School
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2012, 12:44:27 PM »
Touro > Fordham jobs-wise?

Uhh, somehow that doesn't seem right.

As far as rankings go, Touro is the only outlier.

And the data does not discuss compensation. So they may have an easier time finding low-paying jobs.

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Re: Re: Law School
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2012, 12:51:55 PM »
As far as rankings go, Touro is the only outlier.

And the data does not discuss compensation. So they may have an easier time finding low-paying jobs.
Isn't that what under employment means?
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Re: Law School
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2012, 01:02:30 PM »
Do some research and soul searching before you apply, don't just follow the herd. 

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Re: Law School
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2012, 01:28:34 PM »
Do some research and soul searching before you apply, don't just follow the herd.

There's a herd going to law school??? I can count on two hands how many people I know going to law school.

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Re: Law School
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2012, 01:35:11 PM »
Do some research and soul searching before you apply, don't just follow the herd.

Nothing wrong with applying. If you get into a good school, you have a decent chance. It's the people that can't back out once they take the LSAT and get into a poor school that have the issue.

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Re: Law School
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2012, 01:35:47 PM »
There's a herd going to law school??? I can count on two hands how many people I know going to law school.

If you could count in 2 hands, it isn't that much!!  ;D :D
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Re: Law School
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2012, 01:49:00 PM »
Anyway to see this for law schools outside of NY?

ETA never mind found it http://www.lstscorereports.com/?r=ny
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Re: Law School
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2012, 02:29:23 PM »
If you could count in 2 hands, it isn't that much!!  ;D :D

Yes, that was what I was attempting to convey. Where is this giant herd of people going to law school?

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Re: Law School
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2012, 03:11:29 PM »
Touro > Fordham jobs-wise?

Uhh, somehow that doesn't seem right.
I agree.

Two points that may influence this:

1) The score may be based on percentage of employed graduates working in NY. I suspect that Touro graduates are more regionally restricted than their peers at Fordham who may have greater flexibility to work in other markets. Therefore, Fordham's lower "employment score" may be attributable to Fordham graduates not working in NY, but employed elsewhere.

2) Employment prospects out of most law schools are terrible now. Perhaps this chart illustrates the sobering point that even students at a prestigious school like Fordham, face an uphill journey in securing employment upon graduation.

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Re: Law School
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2012, 05:41:37 PM »
I agree.

Two points that may influence this:

1) The score may be based on percentage of employed graduates working in NY. I suspect that Touro graduates are more regionally restricted than their peers at Fordham who may have greater flexibility to work in other markets. Therefore, Fordham's lower "employment score" may be attributable to Fordham graduates not working in NY, but employed elsewhere.

2) Employment prospects out of most law schools are terrible now. Perhaps this chart illustrates the sobering point that even students at a prestigious school like Fordham, face an uphill journey in securing employment upon graduation.

1 doesn't make sense, IMO - what good is the study if it doesn't a) only in NY, and b) doesn't indicate so?

2 I largely agree... My advice is, and has been, if you don't a) get into a t-14 school, and/or b) get a full scholarship, stay away from law school.
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Re: Law School
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2012, 06:06:56 PM »
1 doesn't make sense, IMO - what good is the study if it doesn't a) only in NY, and b) doesn't indicate so?

2 I largely agree... My advice is, and has been, if you don't a) get into a t-14 school, and/or b) get a full scholarship, stay away from law school.
If you look at that websites study there are non T14 schools that have better job rate then T14. Is it worth applying to those or just stick to T14?
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Re: Law School
« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2012, 06:11:01 PM »
If you look at that websites study there are non T14 schools that have better job rate then T14. Is it worth applying to those or just stick to T14?

If you want to have a chance at getting a Biglaw (top-paying) job, you're usually better off at a T14 school.

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« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2012, 06:25:38 PM »
If you want to have a chance at getting a Biglaw (top-paying) job, you're usually better off at a T14 school.

+1

If you look at that websites study there are non T14 schools that have better job rate then T14. Is it worth applying to those or just stick to T14?

Definitely worth applying, see option "b" above :)
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Re: Law School
« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2012, 06:35:03 PM »
Definitely worth applying, see option "b" above :)
what's better a T14 or full ride at say Fordham?
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Re: Law School
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2012, 08:19:24 PM »
what's better a T14 or full ride at say Fordham?
T14. As always there are exceptions to the rule