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Law school exams for yeshiva guys 101, by henche
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2. Write down all the taynas that anyone might have, and what taynas the other guy might have back, and what the halacha probably is. 
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4. Get a job.
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Re: Law School
« Reply #2235 on: June 07, 2020, 10:53:42 AM »
I have a btl from BMG and am thinking about law school. I have started to self study for the lsat and so  far I am scoring very nicely, and I plan on taking an official course as well. I have a gpa of slightly  under a 4.0. Other then that I am a very much a typical guy who learnt in yeshiva. My question is, is it possible and how likely is it to get a nice scholarship from a T7 school like Columbia and UPenn (NYU if they even accept btl's), assuming I get a high enough score on the lsat.
A lot of scholarship is financial related. If you don't qualify financially I wouldn't bank on getting a scholarship from T7.

Just know if you want big law it'll be a worthwhile investment going to a T7.
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Re: Law School
« Reply #2236 on: June 07, 2020, 10:55:49 AM »
What does an 80 hour week look like? Thatís 16 hours 5 days a week. Obviously not Friday so lots of Sunday hours? Adding up commute time, 3 tefillos, minimal eating time, that doesnít seem humanly possible....
Just stop thinking of a regular job and someone can easily work from 9am to 2am on a weekday. Also can work motzei shabbos and all day Sunday.

80 hour work week isn't crazy at all, I'm sure many big law lawyers have done 100+ weeks...
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Re: Law School
« Reply #2237 on: June 07, 2020, 03:27:49 PM »
Just stop thinking of a regular job and someone can easily work from 9am to 2am on a weekday. Also can work motzei shabbos and all day Sunday.

80 hour work week isn't crazy at all, I'm sure many big law lawyers have done 100+ weeks...

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Re: Law School
« Reply #2238 on: June 07, 2020, 04:23:47 PM »
Just stop thinking of a regular job and someone can easily work from 9am to 2am on a weekday. Also can work motzei shabbos and all day Sunday.

80 hour work week isn't crazy at all, I'm sure many big law lawyers have done 100+ weeks...
Probably belongs in the bitachon vs hishtadlus thread (davening with minyan thread?)

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Re: Law School
« Reply #2239 on: June 07, 2020, 04:29:09 PM »
Probably belongs in the bitachon vs hishtadlus thread (davening with minyan thread?)
bitachon vs hishtadlus thread - link?
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Re: Law School
« Reply #2240 on: June 07, 2020, 04:55:34 PM »
Just stop thinking of a regular job and someone can easily work from 9am to 2am on a weekday. Also can work motzei shabbos and all day Sunday.

80 hour work week isn't crazy at all, I'm sure many big law lawyers have done 100+ weeks...

9AM?! Canít remember the last time I made it to the office before 9:45. But 2AM a couple of weeks in a row not crazy if Iím busy, and Sunday work can be pretty common too when busy.

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Re: Law School
« Reply #2241 on: June 07, 2020, 04:57:12 PM »
I have a btl from BMG and am thinking about law school. I have started to self study for the lsat and so  far I am scoring very nicely, and I plan on taking an official course as well. I have a gpa of slightly  under a 4.0. Other then that I am a very much a typical guy who learnt in yeshiva. My question is, is it possible and how likely is it to get a nice scholarship from a T7 school like Columbia and UPenn (NYU if they even accept btl's), assuming I get a high enough score on the lsat.

How do GPAs at BMG work? Are there exams?

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Re: Law School
« Reply #2242 on: June 07, 2020, 05:10:57 PM »
How do GPAs at BMG work? Are there exams?
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Re: Law School
« Reply #2243 on: June 07, 2020, 05:11:09 PM »
9AM?! Canít remember the last time I made it to the office before 9:45. But 2AM a couple of weeks in a row not crazy if Iím busy, and Sunday work can be pretty common too when busy.
pretty intense hours wow
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Re: Law School
« Reply #2244 on: June 07, 2020, 05:31:51 PM »
A lot of scholarship is financial related. If you don't qualify financially I wouldn't bank on getting a scholarship from T7.

Just know if you want big law it'll be a worthwhile investment going to a T7.
Thanks for the reply. I understand not to bank on it, Iím wondering though, is it even likely? I am scoring relatively very well after some self study, so Iím just wondering if there is a reasonable chance.

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Re: Law School
« Reply #2245 on: June 07, 2020, 05:40:11 PM »
pretty intense hours wow
Iím thinking about going for law, as is pretty noticeable  :) and have been reading up on this thread. I see a recent discussion was this precisely; what are the hours for biglaw. I didnít see a clear consensus on this, though. What is the average expected work week? Are there options with normal work hours? If I do not want to do 50-60(+) hour work weeks long term, I should forget about biglaw (and possibly all law)? What about doing it for a few years, what are the exit options after that? I am pretty analytical, and think I can do well in the actual practice of law, but not sure what else is generally needed to do well.
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Re: Law School
« Reply #2246 on: June 08, 2020, 01:18:54 AM »
My start date at the firm was pushed to 2021.  Joining the EBEC group.  Any thoughts on this?  Thinking about getting some tax experience too, so as not to pigeonhole myself.  Thoughts?
what does your firm say. ask them if they could place you assisting at an inhouse client perhaps (some big companies have several inhouse emp benefits people). is it early 2021 or fall 2021? if the latter, could u somehow sneak into one of these graduate tax programs at the school you are currently in (esp with zoom?)?

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Re: Law School
« Reply #2247 on: June 08, 2020, 01:22:25 AM »
Iím thinking about going for law, as is pretty noticeable  :) and have been reading up on this thread. I see a recent discussion was this precisely; what are the hours for biglaw. I didnít see a clear consensus on this, though. What is the average expected work week? Are there options with normal work hours? If I do not want to do 50-60(+) hour work weeks long term, I should forget about biglaw (and possibly all law)? What about doing it for a few years, what are the exit options after that? I am pretty analytical, and think I can do well in the actual practice of law, but not sure what else is generally needed to do well.
if u expect/need the biglaw payoff u cant expect to work less than an average of 60 hours a week (or u will be let go these days pretty quick if work is otherwise available). sure u might get lucky, or as is more likely, if your people skills arent as good as a goy named tyler who played varsity polo, and your grades arent S&C/Wachtell level, u will probably end up at one or another large sweatshops where u can cost for 3 years just doing heavy hours of doc review or due diligence before u figure out what u will do. options really depend on clients and also to an extent your relationships from law school or otherwise.

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Re: Law School
« Reply #2248 on: June 08, 2020, 02:38:28 PM »
I have a btl from BMG and am thinking about law school. I have started to self study for the lsat and so  far I am scoring very nicely, and I plan on taking an official course as well. I have a gpa of slightly  under a 4.0. Other then that I am a very much a typical guy who learnt in yeshiva. My question is, is it possible and how likely is it to get a nice scholarship from a T7 school like Columbia and UPenn (NYU if they even accept btl's), assuming I get a high enough score on the lsat.
It is possible, but you likely would have to get in the upper 170s to get a scholarship (not including financial based scholarships). It also depends on what you mean when you say a nice scholarship.

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Re: Law School
« Reply #2249 on: June 08, 2020, 02:40:38 PM »
Thanks for the reply. I understand not to bank on it, Iím wondering though, is it even likely? I am scoring relatively very well after some self study, so Iím just wondering if there is a reasonable chance.
I would say it is NOT likely.

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