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Law school exams for yeshiva guys 101, by henche
1. Read the story. 
2. Write down all the taynas that anyone might have, and what taynas the other guy might have back, and what the halacha probably is. 
3. Hit "submit"
4. Get a job.
5. Never see your family again!!!!!!!

http://www.top-law-schools.com/success-in-law-school.html
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Re: Law School
« Reply #40 on: February 06, 2013, 07:31:26 PM »
You know everyone who enters intends to be in the top 1%, but only 1 in 100 is.
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This past summer a major law firm went bust (may have been earlier).   A Harvard grad had a job there, but it obviously disappeared.  This Harvard grad was unable to find another job.  At all. 
Dewey and LeBoeuf: Sad story. The firm filed for bankruptcy protection in May of last year. I know several 2Ls at CLS that were to have had summer associateships there and found out 1 week before finals that there positions had disappeared. The writing was already on the wall in March when the firm began shedding partners. By April, it was hemorrhaging partners by the dozens to rival firms. Many associates were left in the dust.

Scary thing is that in August, 2011 when the incoming summer class of 2Ls was interviewing, there was no way to know that this was going to go down. Even the partners were in the dark then.

Some of the CLS kids were able to find positions at other firms who graciously took them on to their summer classes despite the late date. I know one who went to Mayer Brown.

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Re: Law School
« Reply #41 on: February 07, 2013, 10:02:06 AM »
I disagree with some others.  Today, you must manage risk.  I would go to Fordham and score in the top 10%.
i would also take the free ride to fordham because even if you are not in the top 10 at least you dont have a crushing debt of the t14 school where you probably wont be in the top  10 either

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Re: Law School
« Reply #42 on: February 07, 2013, 10:31:08 AM »
i would also take the free ride to fordham because even if you are not in the top 10 at least you dont have a crushing debt of the t14 school where you probably wont be in the top  10 either

In fact you will be less likely to be in the top 10% at a t14 than at Fordham (considering the competition) but at least you will have a much higher chance at a job even if you are only the top haf of the class. Everyone has to weigh the pros and cons for their own circumstances.

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Re: Law School
« Reply #43 on: February 07, 2013, 11:12:27 AM »
if you do well in fordham you will hopefully get a job might not be as good as from the t14 but you also have to consider that you are already up 200k from not taking out loans

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Re: Law School
« Reply #44 on: February 07, 2013, 12:06:05 PM »
Everyone has to weigh the pros and cons for their own circumstances.

That's the bottom line.

T-5 or 6 is said to open doors that are said to be closed to "Fordham" (used loosely to represent schools that are of lower rank).

Also, you don't even need to be in the top half of your t-5 or 6 schools to get a job at am law 50 firm. Maybe not even in the top 3/4.
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Re: Law School
« Reply #45 on: February 07, 2013, 03:32:57 PM »
זה כלל גדול: You cannot choose a law school (or choose law school) unless you have lurked on top-law-schools.com (from which I am banned, many times over) for several months. ואידך פירושא.


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Re: Law School
« Reply #46 on: February 07, 2013, 03:39:33 PM »
Sounds interesting :P
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Re: Law School
« Reply #47 on: February 24, 2013, 04:00:37 AM »
Law.com top story today, published their top 50 goto law school list updated for 2012 hiring history... Seems hiring has started going up this year.
http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=1202589189668&interactive=true

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Re: Law School
« Reply #48 on: February 24, 2013, 10:50:28 AM »
Law.com top story today, published their top 50 goto law school list updated for 2012 hiring history... Seems hiring has started going up this year.
http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=1202589189668&interactive=true

Yeah, but that ranking is retarded. I don't care what the number of NLJ 250 lawyers is,  you cannot rank Yale number 14 and be taken seriously. If you are at the bottom of your class at Yale, you will still be fawned over by top firms. If you are at the bottom of the class at Penn (their number 1), you will have a serious employment problem.


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Re: Law School
« Reply #49 on: February 25, 2013, 12:30:30 AM »
Yeah, but that ranking is retarded. I don't care what the number of NLJ 250 lawyers is,  you cannot rank Yale number 14 and be taken seriously. If you are at the bottom of your class at Yale, you will still be fawned over by top firms. If you are at the bottom of the class at Penn (their number 1), you will have a serious employment problem.
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It likely ignores public service, and clerkships.
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Re: Law School
« Reply #50 on: February 25, 2013, 06:00:34 AM »
As discussed a few posts up last time this stat was posted...
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Re: Law School
« Reply #51 on: February 25, 2013, 06:05:40 AM »
As discussed a few posts up last time this stat was posted...
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I think the percentages are irrelevant. The real data is what percentage of job applications were accepted. What percentage got their first choice job, and what percentage didn't get a job at all.
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Re: Law School
« Reply #52 on: February 25, 2013, 09:01:06 AM »
You can't complain about purim posts.

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Re: Law School
« Reply #53 on: February 25, 2013, 05:57:04 PM »
OP stated that he/she already made the decision to go to law school. Let's focus on pros and cons of specific schools, not a takedown of law schools in general. For that there is the internet.
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Re: Law School
« Reply #54 on: February 25, 2013, 05:59:08 PM »
OP stated that he/she already made the decision to go to law school. Let's focus on pros and cons of specific schools, not a takedown of law schools in general. For that there is the internet.
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« Reply #55 on: February 25, 2013, 06:00:35 PM »
OP stated that he/she already made the decision to go to law school. Let's focus on pros and cons of specific schools, not a takedown of law schools in general. For that there is the internet.
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Re: Law School
« Reply #56 on: February 25, 2013, 06:07:13 PM »



 Most "yeshiva guys" (yeshiva is being used generically here) pretty much have two options if they want to attend graduate school; business school or law school. Both of those used to be excellent choices no matter where an individual went to school and now they (and their respective industries) are all plagued by saturation. There are too many law and b-school graduates for the market to bear. That doesn't mean that one should no longer go to graduate school, just that the "pot of gold" at the end is not as sure and decisions need to be made more pragmatically and with a lower baseline.

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Re: Law School
« Reply #57 on: February 25, 2013, 06:08:27 PM »
And what are we, chopped liver?

Maybe :-\

Is this a Shushan Purim post?
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Re: Law School
« Reply #58 on: February 25, 2013, 06:11:49 PM »
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Re: Law School
« Reply #59 on: March 11, 2013, 01:24:26 PM »
Another article about law students

http://ideas.time.com/2013/03/11/just-how-bad-off-are-law-school-graduates/
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