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Law school exams for yeshiva guys 101, by henche
1. Read the story. 
2. Write down all the taynas that anyone might have, and what taynas the other guy might have back, and what the halacha probably is. 
3. Hit "submit"
4. Get a job.
5. Never see your family again!!!!!!!

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Re: Law School
« Reply #240 on: December 20, 2013, 12:34:08 AM »
Could just mean that a higher percentage of students at Penn are shooting for BigLaw than HLS students who may be going into the public sector at a higher percentage than Penn students.
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Re: Law School
« Reply #241 on: December 20, 2013, 12:36:01 AM »
As was said earlier.

I'm sure it was…very popular and common answer to that statistic

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Re: Law School
« Reply #242 on: December 20, 2013, 12:38:39 AM »

i know several who are very smart and capable and i love working with them

You say it as if it is a surprise. That disturbs me a bit.

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Re: Law School
« Reply #243 on: December 20, 2013, 03:42:30 AM »
no surprise on my behalf (read the rest), just noting the difference from the unfair perception.

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Re: Law School
« Reply #244 on: December 20, 2013, 06:40:19 AM »
If you are in Harvard they don't care you went to BMG FWIU.

I do think BTL's are at a disadvantage when it comes to written exams. An A exam can have 10,000 words in 4 hours. Most yeshiva guys haven't written 10,000 in 4 years.

Well, classic TLS wisdom is that you are correct, and would suggest that yeshiva guys should practice typing.

I have always disagreed with TLS on this though, as my experience has been that short answers with terrible grammar do fine.

Also, by the end of first semester, I kind of was figuring out how to type, from taking notes.

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Re: Law School
« Reply #245 on: December 20, 2013, 07:26:28 AM »
How could it not disadvantage you on an interview?? That doesn't make sense. They defineltly do consider your undergraduate degree , meaning a candidate with a  degree from Stanford trumps a candidate with a degree from Touro, all else considered equal. I would think a BTL is inferior to most BA's especially those held by students in top law schools? What your saying just doesn't seem to make sense. Granted there are rare exceptions (A guy with a BTL once saved the interviewer's life etc.) but if I had to generalize…..

I don't think this is so to very signifcant extent. But it could be true to a small extent. Nor have I seen this suggested on TLS. Noone on the OCI threads talks about what undergrad they went toz.

For example, the schools publish internally what jobs their people got from OCI and with what grades. I've never heard them suggest that it might matter what undergrad you went to?

I think its pretty much assumed that if you got into this law school, then everything you did beforehand checks out.

Kind of the same way it doesn't really matter where you went to law school by the time you're looking to latteral.




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Re: Law School
« Reply #246 on: December 20, 2013, 12:36:23 PM »
As an aside, i always assumed my BTL from an Israeli school (Yerushalayim) helped me into getting into a Law School T5, because the law school preferred listing how many different schools and international schools and cities its class is from for diversity/US News. if i went to Touro, i wonder if i would have got in...

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Re: Law School
« Reply #247 on: February 08, 2015, 02:10:07 PM »
Boy have the rankings changed...

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Re: Law School
« Reply #248 on: February 08, 2015, 02:34:01 PM »
Boy have the rankings changed...
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T14 look the same to me.
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Re: Law School
« Reply #249 on: February 08, 2015, 03:10:58 PM »
Smaller hasagos
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Re: Law School
« Reply #250 on: February 09, 2015, 12:10:37 PM »
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T14 look the same to me.

Ya, but they all moved around.

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Re: Law School
« Reply #251 on: February 09, 2015, 12:11:55 PM »
Ya, but they all moved around.
Not really. Seems to all be around the same spot as last year.
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Re: Law School
« Reply #252 on: February 18, 2015, 09:48:59 AM »
Figured this was the best thread......
I've heard guys mention taking a pre law school course (help with legal writing/what to expect in law school). Anyone know of such courses/programs?

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Re: Law School
« Reply #253 on: February 18, 2015, 09:57:32 AM »
Figured this was the best thread......
I've heard guys mention taking a pre law school course (help with legal writing/what to expect in law school). Anyone know of such courses/programs?

Waste of time.

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Re: Law School
« Reply #254 on: February 18, 2015, 10:06:55 AM »
Waste of time.
+1 that's what the first 3 days of school usually are. Something like leews may be recommended but really depends on the person.
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Re: Law School
« Reply #255 on: February 18, 2015, 10:24:43 AM »
i came in straight from yeshiva and did terrible on my first year exams (never learned how to write with structure, and though i spotted every issue and more, it was definitely hard to read), i took leews and i did much better from then on, but that could have been due to lots of things. iirc i got a discount somehow but it was long ago.

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Re: Law School
« Reply #256 on: February 18, 2015, 10:25:18 AM »
+1 that's what the first 3 days of school usually are. Something like leews may be recommended but really depends on the person.

I bought LEEWS.  Cost like a hundred bucks.

I was a 1L--you think I had time to listen to LEEWS? lol. I listened to like an hour and then went back to studying.

So what, you will listen to it before classes start? I don't think you'll understand it yet. 

Law school exams for yeshiva guys 101, by henche
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Re: Law School
« Reply #257 on: February 18, 2015, 10:37:02 AM »
I bought LEEWS.  Cost like a hundred bucks.

I was a 1L--you think I had time to listen to LEEWS? lol. I listened to like an hour and then went back to studying.

So what, you will listen to it before classes start? I don't think you'll understand it yet. 

Law school exams for yeshiva guys 101, by henche
1. Read the story. 
2. Write down all the taynas that anyone might have, and what taynas the other guy might have back, and what the halacha probably is. 
3. Hit "submit"
4. Get a job.
5. Never see your family again!!!!!!!
If you had listened to leews you wouldn't have had to study as hard :P

Anyway listening before school starts and then as a reminder over Thanksgiving break would be good IMHO.

If someone has no idea how to write their thoughts on paper they can take a writing course. Fwiu though that's all you need to be able to do, write down your thoughts.
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Re: Law School
« Reply #258 on: February 18, 2015, 10:52:46 AM »
Just checked out this LEEWS thing. It looks pretty good. Thanks for the advice.
Did you use it jj? Did it help?

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Re: Law School
« Reply #259 on: February 18, 2015, 10:57:04 AM »
Law school exams for yeshiva guys 101, by henche
1. Read the story. 
2. Write down all the taynas that anyone might have, and what taynas the other guy might have back, and what the halacha probably is. 
3. Hit "submit"
4. Get a job.
5. Never see your family again!!!!!!!
+108. this was great back in the day but ITE :)? can we still say ITE?