Author Topic: Tal Law annuled . . . Now what? (Read 17335 times)

damaxer91 · « **Reply #80 on:** March 07, 2013, 08:29:37 PM »

Quote from: good sam on March 07, 2013, 03:53:58 PM

http://www.vosizneias.com/125757/2013/03/07/jerusalem-first-round-of-arrest-warrants-issued-for-anti-draft-ultra-orthodox

" IDF sources have told the Maariv that the army does not expect police will enforce the warrants"

Drago · « **Reply #81 on:** March 11, 2013, 04:42:40 AM »

Interesting article.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4251910,00.html

U-no-me! · « **Reply #82 on:** April 15, 2013, 07:56:15 PM »

and it begins...:Chabad Soldier Sent to Military Prison for Refusing Draft

Ergel · « **Reply #83 on:** April 15, 2013, 08:10:21 PM »

Quote from: U-no-me! on April 15, 2013, 07:56:15 PM

and it begins...:Chabad Soldier Sent to Military Prison for Refusing Draft

It began a while ago

Drago · « **Reply #84 on:** April 15, 2013, 08:12:00 PM »

Quote from: U-no-me! on April 15, 2013, 07:56:15 PM

and it begins...:Chabad Soldier Sent to Military Prison for Refusing Draft

Lucky for e/o, the Lapid-Bennet proposal wouldn't criminalize draft evading. Just remove gov subsidies.

Although it's weird to see it with Chabad, since they reached a separate agreement with the government last year to serve, after being allowed to spend a year or so learning in Crown Heights.

Anyhow, in this case, it doesn't appear that he refused the draft. He was already in the army when it happened, and thus was subject to army regulations, so it has no bearing on the other situations. If anything, the headline was misleading.

jj1000 · « **Reply #85 on:** April 15, 2013, 08:15:13 PM »

Quote from: Drago on April 15, 2013, 08:12:00 PM

Anyhow, in this case, it doesn't appear that he refused the draft. He was already in the army when it happened, and thus was subject to army regulations, so it has no bearing on the other situations. If anything, the headline was misleading.

+100 shamefully misleading

good sam · « **Reply #86 on:** April 25, 2013, 01:23:08 PM »

http://www.vosizneias.com/129306/2013/04/25/jerusalem-rabbi-issues-orders-forbidding-yeshiva-students-from-reporting-to-idf

Rabbi Shmuel Auerbach said officially that it is Assur to report for duty. Maybe I've become krum in my middle age but why is it assur? Would the same apply to a draft in the US?

sguitarist18 · « **Reply #87 on:** April 25, 2013, 01:47:36 PM »

Don't know, and can't claim to be able to represent his opinion, but it might have something to do with the fact that part of the reason for these laws and this pressure is a intense dislike (a term I use instead of rabid hatred) for the religious right, and a desire to destroy it.

Sounds paranoid? Considering that there are parties with a platform of destroying any connection to religion, and if you've spoken to people who've served, it no longer seems that way.

People who tried to sign up for the army, and were turned away once the interviewer realized that they were a rabbi (that taught religion)...

Gzeiras shamd? I'm not saying it is or isn't, but I can certainly understand why someone could make a case for it.

Wait - just read the article, and it seems I wasn't far off - apparently, he refers to it as a “destruction decree” and an “uprooting of religion.”

Galitzyaner · « **Reply #88 on:** April 25, 2013, 08:04:45 PM »

Quote from: good sam on April 25, 2013, 01:23:08 PM

http://www.vosizneias.com/129306/2013/04/25/jerusalem-rabbi-issues-orders-forbidding-yeshiva-students-from-reporting-to-idf

Rabbi Shmuel Auerbach said officially that it is Assur to report for duty.

So? And Reb Yoilish said that it's assur to take money from the tziyoynim. So?

Did you foget about the gzeiras hashmad?!

Don't you know that the zionists are conducting mass conversions?!

DovtheBear · « **Reply #89 on:** April 25, 2013, 08:15:33 PM »

Todays Yated called for bochurim to continue reporting to Induction Centers.

Galitzyaner · « **Reply #90 on:** April 25, 2013, 08:23:40 PM »

Quote from: DovtheBear on April 25, 2013, 08:15:33 PM

Todays Yated called for bochurim to report to Induction Centers.

How would that be relevant? Meyleh if you told me Hapeles reported...

DovtheBear · « **Reply #91 on:** April 25, 2013, 08:33:17 PM »

Quote from: Galitzyaner on April 25, 2013, 08:23:40 PM

How would that be relevant? Meyleh if you told me Hapeles reported...

Just thought it belonged in this thread.

Galitzyaner · « **Reply #92 on:** April 25, 2013, 08:35:59 PM »

Quote from: DovtheBear on April 25, 2013, 08:33:17 PM

Just thought it belonged in this thread.

Oh, I thought you were responding...

DovtheBear · « **Reply #93 on:** April 25, 2013, 08:37:31 PM »

No, sorry. I would respond-if i was following.

SamKey · « **Reply #94 on:** May 18, 2013, 06:52:30 PM »

Here's what

hocker · « **Reply #95 on:** June 09, 2013, 05:30:40 AM »

Ok, here's the latest scoop.

R' Chaim Kanievsky just wrote a new letter rescinding his anti-hafganah stance and reaffirming people should attend!

Red · « **Reply #96 on:** June 09, 2013, 05:40:02 AM »

Quote from: hocker on June 09, 2013, 05:30:40 AM

Ok, here's the latest scoop.

R' Chaim Kanievsky just wrote a new letter rescinding his chatzer's anti-hafganah stance and reaffirming people should attend!

FTFY
V'hamaiven yaven

hocker · « **Reply #97 on:** June 09, 2013, 05:41:06 AM »

Quote from: Red on June 09, 2013, 05:40:02 AM

FTFY
V'hamaiven yaven

+1B

Just watch for some reason this letter will not make it to Matzav or YWN. Letter release time 8AM EST

shach · « **Reply #98 on:** June 09, 2013, 06:20:00 AM »

the letter from friday was forged for all those that recognize his son R' shloimas handwriting and even his is bluff. hence the israeli yated didn't print it after R' Shloima threatened that he'll print a hackchasha in the rival hapeles

Galitzyaner · « **Reply #99 on:** June 09, 2013, 07:05:01 AM »

A bit OT, and a drop old, but I just saw this hilarious article:

Open Letter to Rabbi Dov Lipman : The inside view of why Chareidim don't want & don't need secular training for parnossa

In the beginning when i started reading it, I found the article very disturbing (i.e. like typical YWN or Matzav propaganda) and it was getting me annoyed, until I realized it was obviously satire, and I started rolling. I wish they posted this as an OpEd on Matzav (yeah right!).