Author Topic: Jewish HS team's appeal turned down (Read 14933 times)

HelpMe · « **Reply #20 on:** February 29, 2012, 02:25:54 AM »

Quote from: Deal Guy on February 29, 2012, 02:17:30 AM

Correct. While their last opponent was considerate to their beliefs and changed to accomodate them, their current oppenent is not willing to do so.

You have a weird way of looking at things.

HelpMe · « **Reply #21 on:** February 29, 2012, 02:29:27 AM »

Quote from: jj1000 on February 29, 2012, 02:18:30 AM

I don't think it is and neither did the coach. They were warned at the beginning of the season it's silly to hold a grudge based on this... And if I was the other team heck ya I would want to play a bad team in the semi-finals. Some people just want to win it's not always about being peacy and accommodating the minority. That's what 'Murka is all about opportunity to succeed and I applaud the other team for taking it :-)

I have been involved in all aspects of sports for over 20 years. The quickest way to lose the respect of your players is to choose a lesser opponent. One very simple rule we went by. If you want to be the best you have to beat the best.

Deal Guy · « **Reply #22 on:** February 29, 2012, 02:30:32 AM »

Quote from: HelpMe on February 29, 2012, 02:25:54 AM

You have a weird way of looking at things.

I take that back. I though the other team was giving them a hard time with the switch. (While it may be the case, I haven't seen that reported)

Deal Guy · « **Reply #23 on:** February 29, 2012, 02:32:12 AM »

Quote from: HelpMe on February 29, 2012, 02:29:27 AM

I have been involved in all aspects of sports for over 20 years. The quickest way to lose the respect of your players is to choose a lesser opponent. One very simple rule we went by. If you want to be the best you have to beat the best.

One report I saw, is claiming that their opponent will get a free pass to the finals, and will not have to play on Friday. Don't know if its up to date.
http://www.maxpreps.com/news/Ew8ljy7M2ECLKRdW-lXq4Q/orthodox-jewish-basketball-team-refuses-to-play-on-sabbath,-forced-to-forfeit.htm

Dan · « **Reply #24 on:** February 29, 2012, 02:32:32 AM »

Quote from: HelpMe on February 29, 2012, 02:29:27 AM

I have been involved in all aspects of sports for over 20 years. The quickest way to lose the respect of your players is to choose a lesser opponent. One very simple rule we went by. If you want to be the best you have to beat the best.

Unless your name is LBJ

jj1000 · « **Reply #25 on:** February 29, 2012, 02:37:45 AM »

Quote from: HelpMe on February 29, 2012, 02:25:54 AM

You have a weird way of looking at things.

LOLz! +1

Quote from: HelpMe on February 29, 2012, 02:29:27 AM

I have been involved in all aspects of sports for over 20 years. The quickest way to lose the respect of your players is to choose a lesser opponent. One very simple rule we went by. If you want to be the best you have to beat the best.

Not everything is about being the best. At the end of the day I'd take a championship team over"the best team" and the other coach isn't choosing the lesser opponent the league is handing them to him. Hence the opportunity aspect... But now that this made ESPN I wouldn't be surprised if the coach agrees to accommodate the Jewish team... That would make winning that much sweeter for his team...

Quote from: Dan on February 29, 2012, 02:32:32 AM

Unless your name is LBJ

HelpMe is talking about people that play sports not people who quit in the playoffs to go play with his friends and make more money...

HelpMe · « **Reply #26 on:** February 29, 2012, 02:42:07 AM »

Quote from: Deal Guy on February 29, 2012, 02:32:12 AM

One report I saw, is claiming that their opponent will get a free pass to the finals, and will not have to play on Friday. Don't know if its up to date.
http://www.maxpreps.com/news/Ew8ljy7M2ECLKRdW-lXq4Q/orthodox-jewish-basketball-team-refuses-to-play-on-sabbath,-forced-to-forfeit.htm

You might not like this but a forfeit would be the correct way to do this if the team does not play. They should not put in a substitute team.

HelpMe · « **Reply #27 on:** February 29, 2012, 02:46:49 AM »

Quote from: jj1000 on February 29, 2012, 02:37:45 AM

HelpMe is talking about people that play sports not people who quit in the playoffs to go play with his friends and make more money...

I am glad you cleared that up. I thought he was talking about a president.

Dan · « **Reply #28 on:** February 29, 2012, 01:20:58 PM »

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/02/29/coach-orthodox-jewish-basketball-team-still-hopeful-for-texas-sized-miracle/#ixzz1nnI02D2y

meshugener · « **Reply #29 on:** February 29, 2012, 02:33:10 PM »

I remember reading in NYTimes yesterday or 2 days ago that the opponent team is willing to go earlier

Deal Guy · « **Reply #30 on:** February 29, 2012, 02:40:43 PM »

Quote from: Deal Guy on February 29, 2012, 02:17:30 AM

Correct. While their last opponent was considerate to their beliefs and changed to accomodate them, their current oppenent is not willing to do so.

Based on the quote below, I take back my comment:
"If the Stars can't take the court, Dallas Covenant will play Kerrville Our Lady of the Hills, the team that Beren defeated to reach the regional semifinal. Covenant officials had "clearly expressed" to Beren administrators and TAPPS officials a willingness to reschedule the game, according to a statement released by the school Tuesday. But the decision was ultimately up to TAPPS, headmaster Kyle Queal told FoxNews.com"

HelpMe · « **Reply #31 on:** March 01, 2012, 10:31:48 AM »

Any update?

WhyAich · « **Reply #32 on:** March 01, 2012, 02:05:28 PM »

Quote from: HelpMe on March 01, 2012, 10:31:48 AM

Any update?

http://www.vosizneias.com/102062/2012/03/01/texas-orthodox-basketball-team-wins-fight-to-play

MisterHock · « **Reply #33 on:** March 01, 2012, 02:05:51 PM »

Quote from: HelpMe on March 01, 2012, 10:31:48 AM

Any update?

Looks like we’re back in business!

http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/03/01/3775984/judge-orders-tapps-to-accommodate.html

Dan · « **Reply #34 on:** March 01, 2012, 02:07:35 PM »

Wow. I wonder on what grounds though they sued and received the restraining order if they had been told of the problem beforehand?

WhyAich · « **Reply #35 on:** March 01, 2012, 02:08:13 PM »

Quote from: MisterHock on March 01, 2012, 02:05:51 PM

Looks like we’re back in business!

http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/03/01/3775984/judge-orders-tapps-to-accommodate.html

beat you to it

but yes a different article

bubbles · « **Reply #36 on:** March 01, 2012, 02:09:40 PM »

Now they just gotta win their game

myb821 · « **Reply #37 on:** March 01, 2012, 02:11:42 PM »

Quote from: Dan on March 01, 2012, 02:07:35 PM

Wow. I wonder on what grounds though they sued and received the restraining order if they had been told of the problem beforehand?

religious discrimination possibly based on the fact that they accommodated seventh day Adventist's previously??(just a guess)

WhyAich · « **Reply #38 on:** March 01, 2012, 02:13:26 PM »

Quote from: myb821 on March 01, 2012, 02:11:42 PM

religious discrimination possibly based on the fact that they accommodated seventh day Adventist's previously??(just a guess)

did they?

article?

WhyAich · « **Reply #39 on:** March 01, 2012, 02:21:01 PM »

thanks! wow! what chutzpah..... or rather antisemitism at its best